Beer of the Day Podcast - Thanksgiving Leftovers - December 7th, 2016

This is the Beer of the Day Podcast. From beer the world headquarters in Elk Grove California. This is the beer of the day podcast. It seems like it's been a eternity since our last show three weeks we've been busy Thanksgiving

was here Jeff was in Coast Rica. But now we're back a week late but I will make it up to you. We've got a great show tonight entitled Thanksgiving leftovers and we have kind of a grab bag of different beers to drive a lager Pale Ale I.P.A. double I.P.A. Porter and an Imperial Stout Plus our strange brew. I'm Dallas Heliker, joined tonight by Briton Minor Joel Minor and from Pasadena, Jeff Miller. Hey guys. Good evening. How are you doing good. What's new. Jeff welcome back. Thank you. Yeah I just got back I didn't take a break from drinking beer but I'm I'm happy to be back in the U.S. drink an American beer. All right well let's get started with our first American beer. This is the white Lager from Schlafly brewery in St Louis five and a half percent. This is called a Zwick will be here is the official name of the style. It's very clear beer and when I buy instantly got that smell that Germany style. I very. Light colored like yeah pretty yellow like light a little bit orange would be

a pretty yellow color. So I got the bottom of the bottle of mine's a lot more cloudy when I'm looking at Dallas and glass. There's a lot clearer than mine. Yeah you know like settlement in years. It looks like it's all good. Yeah very little head thin very little head and this is a beer. That's been sitting in the fridge for a while might have something to do with it but it could just be the style that has a very thin head. It dissipated quickly and now there's barely even a film left on the top. It's got a very long or like aroma. I mean we don't have a lot of loggers on the show and so it's kind of nice to start off a show like this with a lighter beer and this is just you know it's a style I don't think we drink much of in when I see the

name white lager. It's pretty interesting makes me want to try to spare small the lot like champagne. You know I do get a little of that I do get some sweetness to a little bit of sweet corn type of a smell you know way to taste it because Dallas pretty much nailed it. His taste is very much similar to the smell. You're getting a lot of that sweet roasted corn smell to it. I'm sorry taste. It's not as bitter as a lager to me like a lot of lagers are a little bit better in this one as if it's been sitting in the fridge for a while it's still held off or held it's taste really nicely. It's pretty enjoyable. Yeah I don't think it's flat you know like the carbonation is still pretty good. And when you look at it there's some effervescence to it. It's a little bit cloudy which I think I like it's part of the style. But it's smooth I mean it didn't. It's not lacking in carbonation or body or anything it's just got a smooth sort of sweet. You know well rounded taste. Yeah it's not dry. It's crisp sorry not crisp or dry it's got a good balance feel to it that it's crisp. Yeah it's because there's some sweetness to it and there's some type of fruit like maybe a little watermelon or some type of. Banana maybe maybe a little banana. It's very subtle but I do. It's just a if sweetness that it has that kind of distinguishes it from. You know say that you might have you know like an American light lager like Bud Light. This is less metallic than that and I'd rather drink this over any of those beers without a doubt. And this is the largest independently owned brewery in St Louis which is obviously the headquarters for Budweiser now it's obviously part of In Bev but I mean being in such a town that's driven by. And Heizer Busch products I mean this is we've been at this brewery and it's a large brewery Dallas and I went there and they make a ton of beers and you know this is this is a nice one. This beer is kind of a screw you to Budweiser. This is this is slightly kind of flip and then the bird like here's how you make a lager. Yeah. Now it says on the bottle that it is slightly hopped he do you guys get any hop at all. I mean obviously there's hops in any beer but you know we drink so many pale ales I.P.A. double I.P.A. is

that you know on the hop spectrum this is very reserved. So I'd say no not really getting in either. Of course I'd say no but for a lager I mean I think there's I taste more hops and this then about wiser. Yeah. This has a lot of flavor for light

lager like this. Yeah I really like it. OK Well before we get to the next period anyone have any interesting beers this week they want to mention I had one today that I would share. I guess it's still fresh hop season maybe. But I was at a location where they had the name Casi fresh hop I.P.A. and I you know I'm a little suspicious census December but I asked the guy. He said they just got the keygen the day before he said it was you know completely fresh. But it's called Total Crystal a crystal ation. It's their fresh hop I.P.A. I thought it was a really enjoyable beer. It had kind of an odd smell some fresh copiers have an odd smell to me whether it's not a lot of aroma. It smells a little bit like a lager but then on the taste it was super hot be tasty. You know refreshing. So if you can stuff find these I mean I like a lot of fresh hot beers but this was a good one. Cool Well let's get into the next beer. This is a another one of those ones that we brought back from Maine and this is Mo Pale Ale six percent. This is from Maine beer company in Freeport. Now Dallas we did not have this beer when we were there right. This is one that we just picked up to bring back to try it once or back. I mean we tasted several beers there but not sure of this was among them. Now I remember liking the other main beer company beers that we tried we had the log or five beer five zero beer five log the log or and we had there's no name other than like a very thin other one another one. I.P.A. Oh that's what it was. We had beer five and we had another one. Let me like one. Yeah I remember thinking that they tasted like really well. Well crafted beers. Yeah just complex beers is what I remember now this one here is a nice golden yellow color also very clear. It's a little cloudy is your line is it would be the in the bottom of the bottom so this is definitely more clear than most main beers. I love the aroma on this. I mean it smells like an I.P.A. Yes ever PELAYO you know I don't want

to drink it because it smells so good. It's smells so it smells like hockey for sure but in a good way. And also there's a sweetness that I'm picking up. There's like some melons bells and a little bit of a tropical smell to it but also like a good

bitterness that you're happy bitterness about that you're hoping you're going to get from it. You could make a perfume out of this one taste phenomenal. I mean they make excellent beers. When we were there you know it was one of my favorite rare experiences we sit down and I think they probably had ten beers on tap and every single one of them was good. You know a lot of these berries you go to you find a few beers you like but main beer company every single one was quality tasty beers and we really enjoyed it and we made sure to bring back several of these so this is not a very multi beer. It's it's like low on the Mall it's to row very simple malt profile and then the hops are really the distinct characteristic of this beer. Well the impressive thing is the hops without the bitterness. Yeah that's very low bitterness. Yeah I mean there is an intense hop leaver in this beer without the IB use that are normally associated with getting a very high P. beer right. And you know additionally I thought maybe this is going to be like a session I.P.A. where they overload the hops but it's low alcohol not the case here. Those beers tend to be a little bit unbalanced and this here this beer really has is the really well balanced flavor. I don't know if I've ever had a beer that has had such a grassy finish and I'm not thinking about why it's actually very pleasant but I got a very like grassy finish. I didn't get that too you know you could describe a searing about a pale as having a

grassy finish also as far as the pale. Well that's like the gold standard for pale ales you know what. Everything is compared to and this has such a different flavor than searing about a pale ale. It's you know it's a completely different completely

different beer than that but so drink a bowl like this you can probably stack this up against any pail out there and it could hang this one's a lot more subtle to me than hearing about it but very good. But if you compare this to most other pale ales out there. I mean Dallas makes a good point. I mean this has a ton of flavor. You know we drink a lot I P A's and this compared to pale ales is is just a lot more flavorful and for me I think Joel what you mentioned the aroma is what I really get in the in the taste like the tropical on the melon flavors and it's sort of resinous but also very crisp in the finish and I think it's just a really flavorful beer for a pale ale at six percent pales in general seem to be somewhat of a lost art. And everything is IP Yeah. Everything is six and have seven percent eight percent percent whatever. To get a six percent beer with this much flavor is. I'm sure it's tricky and you can just tell that they really. Well they should be proud of this one. It's very good. So one of the things that I don't like about having a ton of I P A's is the amount of like sweetness and sugar and malt you get from it. The good thing about this is it's crisp but flavorful so you don't feel like you're getting overwhelmed by ball and sugar and a lot of high alcohol A.B.V.. High alcohol I.P.A. to have there's no sweetness I mean there's some fruit in S. but it's not on sweet kind of fruit in us that you get in this you know not sweet but not bitter either. No it's not butter. It's pretty well balanced like right in the middle there. My Line. Now let's get into the beer news of the day. OK Our first story. You know it's in his or Bush. What do you know. They have completed the world's first commercial shipment by a self driving truck and they sent a tractor trailer one hundred twenty miles through Colorado without a driver. So I watched the video online they had this whole long winded thing about it is a partnership with. And basically the guy got the truck

on the freeway and then he gauge the autopilot and then he went in the back and read a magazine or something. So I would agree there's a. But they didn't. That would have been too controversial. So it's interesting online a lot of people were a little bit you know if he about whether they want a huge ass big rig driving itself. You know on the same freeway where they're driving. But I don't really know what the point of it was I mean the driver is still on board. You know. Well I was just thinking so why didn't they just do it from start to finish like why did he have to get it on the freeway first. Well it's not one of those like Tesla self driving things yet it's nothing but a straight line but I think it's basically control who's usually keeps the city built straight and it's kind of funny I actually read this. While I was in Custer Rico I read this story and I. I didn't I didn't know you're going to bring this story up Dallas. I was reading about how much time they put into

preparing for this and they did all these test runs without the beer because if something went wrong. They want to ruin all this beer I so they did test runs using this truck with like water. Or in the back instead of beer just to get the weight correct of what it would be. And you know they ended up doing this at like one or two in the morning because they figure that was the optimal time in terms of traffic. And it's kind of funny like they. They obviously if they're going to pursue this they can't

put all this time into one trip. Obviously that's not very effective but it's. It's crazy how much effort they're put an end to try to make this work. Yeah I had a whole long video. In other news you might notice that Boston Beer Company has a new face on their product new labeling new packaging and I guess their sales have been low and they're trying to figure out what to do you know how to how to continue to grow or you know at least maintain their market share. So many local breweries are popping up and a lot of people are drinking local beer. I know I am here and I see it more and more often. Many bars and restaurants don't have Sam Adams on tap anymore. Yet they have you know race or Track seven. You know local beer. So. Rumor has it

the bar down the street from our house who is a pub brews their own beer. There are several small plays they're going in the Golden One center of the Sacramento Kings because even Sacramento and B A. And that arena as a whole is understanding how the port is to have local sourced brews and craft beers. So if you go to that new arena. I mean the majority of the beers you're going to get are going to be from Northern California. So you know I think we've talked about this a little bit before like in terms of at what point is it no longer considered craft brewing when barrel outputs and whatnot are. Sam Adams is he. Huge they've had to change the definition of what craft beer is so that they fit the definition yeah they keep having to raise the number of barrels per year so that Sam Adams continues to be a craft beer even though you know they're the biggest craft brewery in the country. What the rebranding looks like I haven't seen it. It's there. But I mean I think they need it because I have nothing against Sam Adams I mean growing up we drank a lot of Sam Adams products and you know it's a good brewery but I can't remember the last time I ordered or or purchased a Sam Adams beer. Nothing wrong with it but it seems like the only time I have it is if I'm like in Vegas at a blackjack table because that's the best beer they offer more or even some of their sours their sours are off the charts. Yeah yeah but I think that's hard to find it is. Yeah. Every time I go to bed now. And I find that Stony Brook retch by I'll take it all in is a good start. Yeah. So look for some T.V. ads are going to come out with like a wheel of malt sixty beers from light to dark with they have and you know some other advertisements. So they're going to start pushing trying to buck the trend that they're experiencing another story. Schmaltz brewing company says some of its bigger names including several Jewish themes can be a bit unorthodox and now a California winery wants one of those names to be reformed. Schmalz has their beer called and all in caps minute twa right. But it's manna is all in caps. Well. Sutter Home has their money. White Zinfandel and so now they are suing small because they say it's too confusing or whatever. Now. Well hold on. How does. Starter home spell it. I me and he like many. Yeah yeah I spelled the French way right. But it's not even so how can they claim like a saying like I just I don't see them having a case. I don't either. I think maybe they're doing this just to get the news and sell some sort of home wine or something which they do stock at seven eleven. Every seven eleven. Well we've gone we've gone through you know discussions like this before in regards to like when there was the dust up between law goodness and hearing about it with the hop honor and whatnot and I was one of the people that thought like this is ridiculous that doesn't even look close to the same thing but yes spelling it completely differently first of all is like one

thing and then how are you going to what are they going to trademark Menasha twa like is that going to be like you can't. Yeah. Seems I think there were more than four thousand two hundred U.S. craft breweries last year according to the brew Brewers Association and the proliferation has resulted in many lawsuits over beer names one early alternative came a decade ago from Colorado's Avery Brewing Company and California's Russian River Brewing Company upon realizing Bowl sold Belgian style is called salvation. They blended them to create collaboration not litigation ale. I like that route better. I have that there in my fridge right now have not opened it will have to do that on a future show that's making lemonade out of lemons right there. That's what that is that's going to the next beer. Now we had a pale ale now we're going to move into a full blown I.P.A. called double dose. Now this is not a double I.P.A. but it's called double dose. Eight point five percent you're getting close. Maybe it is a double I.P.A.. And this beer is my goal is to not have to double abs on the show but probably failed on that front. So this. Is a collaboration I think the. You know the label of the bottle and everything like that is from author Creek

brewing which is and Middlebury Vermont. And it's a collaboration with Lawson it's finest liquids which everybody knows that makes up a sunshine which we've had in the past and this is another one of the beers that we picked up in Vermont and brought back with us very recently. Wait a minute wait a minute this brewery also makes sips of John. Yeah this is Lawsons finest liquids will. Yeah you have flowed a youth I have very very much that I'm and if particulate matter you have it. No because I always put myself first because I'm selfish. I do not for the first half of the bottle. OK Well I'd have a lot of I'm assuming used particles you could be dirt. I don't know but I have the long or the largest head that is dicking around. I think part

of it due to poor Joe is a little it's an orange colored beer is a list maybe not oversell as a appear to have much carbonation in there at all like sip of sunshine I mean what we think we had that I think I stored one of my refrigerator for a couple weeks I had it recently. It smells very similar to my weird thing with awful smells fantastic. It does and I had a really good. I'm trying to substantiate last night and it's you know I started drinking them straight out of the can because I think

it has a better aroma. And you know hot flavors and this is very similar in the aroma. Now this is a step up from that last beer labor was alcohol kick on my first sip sugar kick sugar kick very bold flavorful beer here. My first impression is this

is a lot like a West Coast style I.P.A. I mean there's a lot of citrus and. Great fruit flavors. And it's not as like Juicy I mean there's there's fruit flavors but it's not as juicy as a lot of the beers from this region or this beer is good. I mean for everything that we said from a balanced approach for what a pail is of the bow that we had on the last tasting. This beer is just as good for all of the other reasons. It's the intensity it's the hopping is it's the sweetness it's the bomb in your mouth but it's all in a good way that brings out all those flavors in a way that you're like and that's intense. It's very intense. I actually like it right up until the last five seconds of the off after taste in the three are getting like a lot of there's like a dry very dry bitterness at the end. But all of the flavors that you guys are describing. It's totally it's really good. It's just the aftertaste that's turning off that you guys and I'm a hater I like that dry sort of bitter finish. But I think what I like about this beer and also other beers from Lawsons is they are just very well balanced and a lot of the wrong. Vermont area I mean there's a lot of phenomenal I.P.A.. But most of them are very very hop E. and have almost no malt and I think what sets. Like Lawson's apart is they're much more balance with the malt. And you know I don't know. You know they're obviously a collaboration here it's also with author creek but I'm seeing that same sort of style with this beer. I do like this. Actually yeah it was but so has just been for me from the lighter pale ale to the double I.P.A. but yeah. After a few sips you can just there's no not a kick to it. It's very bold flavorful beer but it's just well balanced. I mean we're used in the same like hot flavor so I mention like the citrus or is it do you think it's more Piney or it's not I need to him. When you said citrus Theo's like yeah and very well balanced like you I get a little like grapefruit and lemon type of citrus hops. I think this is the first real happy beer we've had tonight Normally we're having have quite a few beers in our you know bitter beers as well you know we had some we had a celebration before we started celebration by Sierra Nevada beer before we started the show and you know I really enjoy the way this stacks up against that is that still fresh in my mind it's just very well balanced like Jeff said it's got all of these really intends flavors and they use the words back because it smacks your taste buds in a good way it does we're going to take our break when we come back we have a strange brew from the brewery here in California comments from the listeners a double I.P.A. a porter and an Imperial Stout will be right back here listening to the fear that a podcast the art if you like this program and would like to support us and it's getting close to the holidays and so everyone is going to be doing a bunch of online shopping and one way you can support the beer the day podcast is by shopping on Amazon through the beer the day website. If you go to beer the day dot com on the right hand side there's a banner that says Amazon you click that you do your regular Christmas shopping and buy all your gifts on Amazon they ship it right to your door and this experience is exactly the same whether you go through beer the day or night it doesn't cost you anything more. And we get a little bit of commission based on what you spend and then we use that money to buy beer that we drink on this program and the cycle continues. For example this week. Somebody bought the missed. Your shield tempered glass screen protector for the Samsung Galaxy J six J seven. It is a two pack. They paid six dollars ninety five cents. We made four point zero three percent commission. And that's twenty eight cents so that twenty eight cents. That's a quarter and three pennies. We will use toward Beer on a future podcast so. Remember if you're going to do your shopping on Amazon holiday

shopping online. Remember to click that banner before you do it because that's going to help us out. Let's get back to the show. Welcome back to the program. This is our Strange Brew segment where we find a odd beer is from our refrigerator. Today it's Room of the brewery in Placentia California and we have or Chada all our Space X. eighty eight. I know that's how you spell it that I want to come in and I think it is coming at seven point one percent. So one point one percent according to the bottle this is a blond ale brewed with rice cinnamon and vanilla beans. I feel like that's how they would spell it in San Sebastian I think so and Basque country. Yeah color wise it's cloudy. A traditional yellow color. Very small bubbles on the head and of the thin white head. And very small bubbles on the head. It's got the aroma of like a. Winter spiced beer like a lot of the ones I expect to have on our upcoming winter beer show those a little like cinnamon milk. Yeah. Which is which is essentially what it. Is essentially when it's trying to be like rice pudding and cinnamon drink with milk and it smells like or shot and I was you know I live in Southern California and I drink a lot of or Chahta and it smells exactly like it tastes a lot like it to a lot of cinnamon there's a little bit of it like I don't know how they did it but there is that like rice the dairy the nominee. I don't know how they did it it doesn't taste like you're drinking a beer no the mouthfeel is completely different than any beer I've ever had. It's very milky. Creamy cream yeah it is like if you blindfolded me and made me drink this when I even say it was a beer. I don't think so. Yeah there's a little bit of lager hops something in there that you can kind of

tell it's a beer. But yeah I mean it's hard to say oh this is this is a beer. Other than I do think it has a lot of carbonation and that's the only thing that keeping it from being like it does taste creamy and it does have kind of a cream feel but it is like it's kind of by be in the carbonation and that's the only thing that you know anything that you'd be able to tell. Yeah beer with flat that I don't think yeah I don't think you would but the bubbles do make it seem like a beer. That's the only distinguishing factor but I think it's not quite as milky as or Chahta like their actual nonalcoholic or shot of this. I do taste a little bit of alcohol. I mean it's still seven point one percent which we've had some there are some that were that are like eighteen nineteen percent and I would. Yes this is on the lighter and the beers they make but I still get a little bit of alcohol taste and it's not boozy by any means but it's it doesn't quite taste the same as or Cha To which tends to be a little milk here. You know the funny thing is I would say it's funny but I really like this beer. I do too. I feel like I want for dessert like every night this week. It's it's pretty incredible. And you know we're getting close to the holidays and you know that the more festive drinks the beers get a little spicy or they get more festive. You have the eggnog with the cinnamon and the and and this kind of reminds me of a holiday style beer. It does it says on the bottle to pair this with the spicy dish but honestly I wouldn't want to drink this a company anything like I want to eat food with this. I feel like this is something that you need to taste on your own kind of like have it as dessert and it's very good if you're drinking it but self. I wouldn't pair it with anything. No I don't think you need to I guess would be a great dessert. If you just pulled this out and served it for dessert. I don't think you get any complaints from anybody. I think this is you know it's stuff my strange brew and it's so unique like this is something where I want to show up at like a Christmas dinner with my family and say you got to try this just for something different like it's especially if you're with people that don't drink beer that often which is probably very few people we hang out with but you show up and you have a try this like that's a pretty cool experience. I feel bad that we drink this because now it's gone. I'm wondering if we can grab this is something I might give it to people at the office for Christmas. It's it's very. One of a kind and in really great tasting. I'm glad Dallas that we held on to this because we probably had this for several months. I'm glad we waited till December because if we had this in August. It would be a way to make slightly different yet it would make sense to have it in August and I never would have thought that before we opened me to incoming transmission. You've got mail. Comments this week. So this fell into my lap. Today we are recording this on Friday December second I got his email today from the two Michigan and he e-mailed feedback at near the Day dot com Hello my name is Tim Misha I live in Sassoon City California. The other day my wife brought in a six pack of Pacific

drift and one of the bottles was empty. Looks like it was it has a couple drops of beer in it and if it has never been opened. What can be done about it. I really enjoy the India Pale Ale hope you can help thank you Tim a little we told him. Oh man.

Probably just send the wife out for another six pack and by the time you get done drinking that one. You're not going to be worried about the empty beer but I love it and he's like I got to reach out somebody any you know Tim if you're out there and you're here in this. I'm glad you reached out cuz will do anything we can to help but our advice just to go by another six pack. Yeah I bet all six balls will be full on that new six pack and save that bottle I mean you save the bottle because that's a fair amount of public opinion. That's right. Comments on beer the day dot com on camel black ice from Camel. Brewing Company in Las Vegas Nevada now Jeff and I well we all have been to Vegas a number of times and I now had never heard of cammo

Brewing Company and we had not been there Bill. Mott left a comment on camel black ice. I love the camel black ice in the twenty four cans. I've been drinking it probably at least two years give or take a few months but now for the last couple weeks I have with two five or six different liquor stores and they have been sold out of them and they say that the last few times their reply trucks come in they still haven't had it on the trucks and they are not sure why I hope your company does not stop making it. It's my favorite and the only beer I really like to drink. Please don't start making it. Please and thank you so Bill Maher apparently thinks that we are the makers of the camel black ice twenty four tall cans. I had to look this beer up because it actually was not on our website and it's actually malt liquor. But this is a only beer he drinks I was pretty surprised it's like really cheap malt liquor that you buy at seven eleven and I mean that's a pretty funny comment. I guess I hope to get more stuff like that but that's not really sure how us know. But look it up next. They were in Vegas. Maybe we can go over there and pull a few strings you know we have quite a bit of clout here at near the day on Facebook facebook dot com slash

the beer the day. Jim so check from New Hampshire posted a comment on Dia de los Soran those double stout with serrano chilies from Green Flash California brewery out in New Hampshire. Tim says rich chocolate coffee vanilla biscuit and some heat from the chiles combine for a. Very pleasant Stout that will warm you up on a cool winter evening. Nice thick mouthfeel moderate carbonation a tad dry and the finish an extremely approachable forty eight point eight percent A.B.V. don't let the chilly

scare. It's only a tiny part of this beer not over the top at all. Cheers. Cheers. I was a little afraid of this beer because you know sometimes they go over the top with the chiles and now my fears have been put at ease. I'm going to buy this beer and try it. So thanks for the comment Tim the beer the day on Nov thirtieth which was a couple days ago was the mill than I.P.A. from Melvyn brewing in Alpine Wyoming and so on Facebook the beer the day gets posted to Facebook Instagram Twitter every single day. Jasmine star from Houston wrote this is the best tasting can be or I've ever tried. It's awesome. So I had tried the Melvin but the next beer we're going to have after the after the comment section is enough and double I.P.A. yes call the two by four and Instagram that each day. Jeff posts. The beer that it Instagram and when the middle of an I.P.A. with post Instagram. Melvin beer at Melvin beer responded November thirtieth shall never be the same. And then Jeff responded at Melvin beer nice love this beer and two by four. We picked them both up on a recent trip to Seattle were in California and hopefully we can get some again. Melvin beer will be out of business by then but thank you. I don't understand. I love it. I don't know if he's kidding or I don't really I assume he's kidding. But it. I was a little I didn't know what to make of that comment and maybe he's saying that. I'm hoping I'm getting bought out. I don't know just a quick note on Twitter. We're at here. The day and last time we did our Seattle beers show and I just wanted to give a shout out to the Seattle breweries Fremont brewing machine house. Ruben's brew and two beers brewing. They all retreated us. And so after that last show you know the beers of the day for the upcoming week after a podcast is usually in the show the beers that we had on the show and it's not that often that we get breweries reach we miss but we had for Seattle breweries really tweet us and we really appreciate that. It helps. Fred the beer of the day we're are that's going to the next beer. Like I said for a mill been brewing in Alpine Wyoming we have the two by four double I.P.A. I'm looking forward to this. It's pretty aggressive poorer for it and beer and wine were

part of this perfectly. Just to get some background the reason I got a hold of this is when I was in Seattle picking up all the Seattle beers I got a couple you know a little you know bottle shops and I'm looking for Seattle beers and three different

people on the trip said. In addition Seattle beers you got to get the stuff from Melbourne. And they have you know distribution into Seattle and by the time a third person told me to get this I was like are and I better get it. And so I brought these back from Seattle. Obviously this is from Wyoming. But I think it's important that these Seattle craft beer fans told me to buy this. And that's why we have it. So it is a golden color beer quite hazy very little carbonation a medium white head with small little bubbles but the laziness quite. Really sticks to the side of the glass. I'm getting like like hair and melon flavors off the top of it. Melon for sure. I mean they're all I thought like it smelled the little floral I get some of that

too. And this is not going to be a light beer I mean it's a double I.P.A. it's nine point nine percent. I mean that's pretty high. It's almost going into like triple I.P.A. range but just on the aroma it doesn't smell like it's going to be ninety

percent. You know it's most likely your regular standard I feel like you do a good job of hiding the alcohol and tell the finish. I don't get much bruising this. For be more a bite percent and a half more than the double dose that we just had before the break. I think this is twice as drinkable as that. Yeah I agree. So next Thursday I'm flying up for work in Seattle and I'm going to call ahead of time and make sure someone grabs me a six pack of this because this is a nominal beer. I can name then I can imagine coming home and being like Man I just really want one beer I mean like I'm going to have one beer tonight and I mean a good mood. This isn't this is the beer you have a twelve ounce can of and the like oh I'm going to get a mood now the

attitude to just be added to just. It's OK. Life's going to be all right. There's always beer beer and and my wife was like hops. This is a very I get tons of melon. That is they like single flavor that stands out more than anything else is melon and not a lot of my peers have that but I really get that with this beer. And there's some sweetness I mean for nine point nine percent. You know the amount of malt So you got to put in there to to get the sweetness. It's going to lead to that sweetness and you get some sweetness but it's very drink of all. That's OK It's not that sweet but there's it's more so than a lot of my peers I think. But it's so well balanced we once write a lot of gets up that high. There's going to be a little extra sugar. You know that it's just that's just how it is but when you stack this up against any of the top heavy hitters in that category. Yeah I mean and comparing it to the double dose. It's less front sweetness than the double dose had for sure. Now their single I.P.A. just the Melbourne I.P.A. won gold medal at the this particular beer did not win a medal but I think this is a brewery that I had never even heard of until about a month ago and I've had two beers from them now and both are excellent.

So a few years back there was like this controversy at Trader Joe's where like they're like oh these banana chips only have eighty calories for like twenty chips. And then like they took the you know they took to a laboratory and it being like two hundred calories for a chip or something like that. I feel like they're lying when they're saying it's at nine point nine percent. I want to take it to a laboratory and check it because it is so consumable. And enjoyable at nine point nine percent that is insane. It's two percent more than plenty of the older. That's ridiculous. And just as smooth. I'd like to blind tasting of this versus whiney. You know and some of the other like double I.P.A. is just to see what we think. But this flavor wise this is bursting with flavor from start to finish. Yeah I mean I'm speechless Yeah I'm the same way I mean it is incredible but I think what you're getting is a lot of Len I'm sorry. A lot of you know the melon. Tropical sweetness but not overly like sugary and you just use a good mouth feel it's got great bitterness at the. And but the bitterness doesn't make you want. If you like drink more water is not drying out your throat. I feel like I need Stephen here to be in L.A. I'm going to be the dissenting opinion it is flavorful but I feel like it's a little bit syrupy in that the aftertaste sticks around for ever and like sticks to the roof of your mouth. It sticks to your tongue it's like there forever. I'm fine with it being there. And it almost has like a cooling sensation almost like a minty like it's like my mouth. Yeah like bread and I mean you're not a fan of the most bitter beers. You know and I'm I'm a nice you know I'm when I'm percent. You got. I mean this isn't a very bitter beer. I think it's better but it is sweeter than the double dose but I think that's you know like Della said you know you're going to have some residual sugar from such a high ab. That being said I don't know if I'm just getting used to being force fed these I.P.A. is or what but it's not it's not under a bowl to me it's just not as enjoyable as well. Some other I guess but the double dose was I think way more bitter in the finish than this. Yes it was. This is a lot more reserved even though it's higher. You guys want me to send you the other six cans I have yes yes over and I don't have any. So I'm flying there for one day I'll see if I can find a way to stop by somewhere and ship them back. It was actually readily available I went to several places in Seattle and every place had this I was I was quite surprised so I don't know if it's the same now. But if you're up there. I think you'll be happy that you'll be able to find it. OK so now I know for a fact that will then be your guy on Instagram. Just a kid or you know he's just a funny guy. They will be out of business by then but thank you. There's no way a brewery that makes his beer is going out of business. You know not going to happen. No way and now Jeffrey will tell us a story from coast to Rica. I didn't prepare a story is there anything in particular you're looking for we want to know about the beer scene there. OK that makes sense. This is a human you're with a little work through this isn't your podcast. So I guess that makes sense. I did have Cuban ROM when I was there so I guess the music fits. So what I would say about coaster we can be here is you know if you've traveled internationally a lot of countries have mostly like bloggers that it's not what we normally drink I mean there are three main worries. I think that you find there. The most common beer is Imperial if anybody's been a coaster eco Imperial it's everywhere. It's like the Budweiser Coast Rica so we drink tons of that is another beer called hills in and then THAT'S But Beriah And so there's we had tons of these light beers from ten thirty in the morning all day long. You know it's not it's not really the place to go to for a craft beer. It's I think it would actually be a good market for it because there's a lot of ex-pats that live in Coast Rica that would be interested in drinking craft beer but I think that a country like that they have to import all of the ingredients to make craft beer like they don't grow any of the

stuff there. So we drink tons of these light lagers they're good not like the craft beer that we have in the U.S. by any means. I did have one really tasty craft beer there's a couple craft breweries that are definitely I heard anywhere from like twenty to fifty craft. Worry's exist in the country which is like less than what San Diego has but in the whole country there's some one was from a brewery called Las Silva a beer called which is an I.P.A. It was really tasty I was impressed. We had that we were also surprised to see quite a few California craft beers there I mean we went to a grocery store in a pretty remote part of coaster Rica and you know they had lost Coast beers they had several beers that we can get in California really easily.

And we didn't buy em because we can get them normally but they had some of those so that was cool to see but just tons of the loggers I mean funny story. I think I told Dallas this one. I didn't tell the story we rode quads or A.T.V.'s in the jungle. I don't really know what the laws are there but you know where where we'd stop at a at a bar and have a beer up back on the quads go through the jungle. Funny thing with is at some point you know you're you're running out of gas. We stop at a gas

station and they just have beers right there and then we like chug a beer while the attendant fills up and you just like chug a beer and then you hop back on the quad and it's light beer I mean it's like four point five percent Imperial again it's everywhere but lots of that beer so it's refreshing crisp I mean when you're in a tropical climate like that really close to the equator you want you want to light refreshing lager So there's plenty of that it's cheap. Everywhere you go. It's on draft or bottles or cans. So good place to go drink beer just not the craft beer that you're probably used to in the US was a good trip and a good time. Absolutely. I would go back in a heartbeat. That's going into the next year we're going to transition away from the hobby beers and mango. We're moving into the thirsty trout. I'm a thirsty trout. This is from Dark Horse Brewing Company in Marshall Michigan. But I have a lot of porters on the show. We've got a lot of diverse beer styles and I like it so on the on the poor it's a dark color obviously like you'd expect from Porter Darby Daryn. It's like the per quarter color but some red highlights around the edges. Really pretty thin head kind of a filmy Leithead Berry and colored and colored Yeah I mean it looks like you know you can tell just when you swirl it around in your glasses. Then I mean a lot of porters have a sort of a thin consistency that comes through in the mouth feel on the aroma I'm getting a lot of dark chocolate. Yeah nailed it exactly what I got cinnamon and I was trying to figure out if I'm getting the cinnamon from the OR Chad two beers ago which I don't think that bottle away from your nose wash out your glass. Well cinnamon you know there's a little bit in there. I feel like I watched Oh my gosh pretty good for me I just love the smell of this beer. It's just that chocolate aroma. If you know the little O.T. O.T. O.T. O.T. I guess I'm getting out. I could say that but chocolate is brown sugar. It's not thick I mean I like stouts and it's kind of refreshing to shift gears to a porter that's a little a little lighter easier to drink and at seven percent you get a lot of the same sort of robust chocolate and coffee and well bit coffee flavors as well. Yeah it's a light Melfi although it's definitely not thick doesn't it's not heavy at all. You get those dark roasted molt. I don't get as much chocolate on the flavor that I can get in the smell. But there's a little bit there a little coffee a little

toffee so I've been I am me I'm the porter stout girl that's almost exclusively what I drink if given a choice. I feel like this or reminds me a lot of Andersen Valley's oatmeal stout and just in the tastes like Della said it's a lot lighter in the mouthfeel than a stout is but the flavor is very similar to the Barney flats you know stout to me. Very get you a little Carmel in the aftertaste. I just think this is so drinkable at seven percent. This is a scary beer. You know you could drink a lot of this and not notice it at all. I would love to but it's a light body I mean it's not going to fill you up fill you up but you could drink. Several of these and it's not going to wreck your palate. You know one after another and that all tastes

really good. Maybe some nutty flavors. You guys get any hazelnut hazelnut Yeah that's good one. A little bit of a walnut and hazelnut It's not like a car no buttery way thinks up but the name thirsty trout. It's kind of a weird thing because a trout is in

water. So I bet they don't get thirsty often. That's deep. So the trout on the bottle is dead dead morbid. So maybe I don't think that's a trout. Maybe there's a truck maybe a thirsty drought is a dead trout. That's the only way it could be thirsty right there are skulls in the corner here. So yeah maybe it's a dead trout that thirsty. I don't but it looks like one of these fish. It doesn't. Like a trout it looks like one of these bottom dwelling in like ocean bottom of the ocean fish that is not. I mean it's all bones but that doesn't look like a trout. It's a hell of it. So if you work at Dark Horse brewing Can you please just email us and tell us what the hell you were thinking when you made this bottle. What's up with the trout man. Well you know what they were thinking when they made the beer. Because this is it's good you know it's going to be a tough. It's a tough show here because we had a lot of we're having a lot of good beers in the show we still have one more to go but I'm

already sweat it. And this is good. I mean I don't drink a lot of porters but compared to other porters I've had I would rank this fairly high I mean when I try to come up with my rankings it's it's based on the style of the beer and this is solid. I mean I can't think of too many porters that are better than this. I get either. You know I might want a little bit you know more of a heavier body. Yeah I had my preference but for what it is I mean I think it's great. So the last twenty four hours Britain I have had black Puerto from to shoots brewery and we've also had Icelandic that claimed toasted burger from mine stock and I'll tell you I mean this is a really good beer but the Icelandic Porter is a phenomenal Porter and so it's to accept his beer because has a better mouth feel like what Dallas said that from Britain could it could I mean I saw him. Yeah I used to shoot Black Butte is kind of a benchmark and it's not that it's it's not fantastic orderly it doesn't blow your socks off. But it's not terribly there it's to good like good solid Porter. So I judge a lot of quarters that I have off of Black Butte this want better. Yeah. Interesting. I like that it's light but the Icelandic one is. I'd like to with the thing that we

really like about the I think one is that it's crisp. This one's pretty crisp to getting a lot of oatmeal. I'm not getting the nutty that you're talking about but I get a lot of oatmeal and I really like that flavor. In darker beers excellent. All right let's move into the last beer of the night. This is called spectral evidence. It's called A New England Imperial Stout from Mystic brewery in Chelsea Massachusetts. What's the A.B.V. on this twelve percent. The A.B.V. is fatal just getting so we had a thirteen point eight percent beer. I think it was two nights ago Goose Island something kind of nervous about what this is going to taste like yeah I had that goose out I'm going to also have avery one that was a very me courtiers thing. I don't know if this is an actual style New England Imperial Stout But it's a little bit real so New England. Yeah it will be very cloudy and taste like clam chowder and looks like motor oil give up. Horry and imperial stuff. Should look like most here and I mean look at the head on this dark. You know Art and I had to I had to like him like a ketchup bottle and get it out. I always look for the highlights. You know trying to see if the light is coming through and it's pretty much solid block documents what color is this had I mean it's like dark tan brown not like dark brown but it was about to start ahead as you can get looks like Coke Coca-Cola. Yes thank you for clarifying your oh yeah it's very dark very very dark. I mean it's a beautiful color I like like looking at this in the class and this is. Amazing looking now Joel. Go ahead. Describe the aroma because this is your classic Imperial Stout Yeah smell like this. So I don't like I don't like this style because I feel like they're all so similar. And we've had a conversation about this earlier today but they all have a intense. So. Just like maple syrup like darkness to it that do not like. So I get a lot of molasses on the very last and then when he said soya sauce. It actually resonated with me and I got some of it you know in the aroma too. So I originally I'm a big bourbon fan and said a lot of the styles you'll see like bourbon mixed in with his imprint Imperial Stout style. The problem I have is that a lot of these styles are so similar that you just can't differentiate between all the different beers. And they all have a very similar taste there's not a lot of variety at this style. Now for me the first thing I look for in the style of beer is is there a kick to

it and I'm not getting that here. Now this is only twelve percent so will go thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen. So this is a little lighter for an Imperial Stout as far as A.B.V. goes I get a lot of really dark intense flavors. But on the average taste I'm not getting like an alcoholic burner or a kick or anything like that which is a good sign. I feel and this is probably the first and only time I'm ever going to say this in my life but I actually feel like. Especially for the style it's kind of

watery it tastes a little bit watery like the aroma is very on point with the style but then it's just it doesn't pack a punch. It's not as viscous as no numbers and it's Connor it's got a real thin mouth. Feel for an Imperial Stout too. I think you know when Joy also has a soil sauce aroma. I get that but I don't think that detracts from the taste in any way you know and when I taste this. I think it's actually a very smoky beer. And if the first thing I thought of was not really the taste of the beer but like a food that would accompany this and it's just like Smoky barbecue food to go with this beer. They seem to go really hand in hand with the taste of that food and this beer. It's not that we. Yeah I mean. But this category it's not that sweet and we've nailed it. It's not that sweet. It's uniquely smoky. And it also doesn't have that mouth feel the thickness that you normally get. You know it's a very good beer for it's category. It's just hard for me because there's so many of

these beers lose their variety in style. Because they're all very similar and I think what's tough here is when we have a like really viscous beer. Some people complain that it's too like syrupy Well you are too thick and this is not that and it's you know maybe you need somewhere in the middle but it's like it's hard to get it right because they say that to serve beer it's not Serbian off. I feel like with Imperial stouts like there are a lot of it to me. I like them because they're very complex this one isn't as complex and I think you need a little bit of the the cost of the to kind of deliver all of the complex play VORs this doesn't necessarily. That I enjoy the spear I think it's a smooth I mean it's going to be hard for us to get this again in the future but I think this is a nice winter time sit on the couch and this beer and the flavors are. Good and smoky and I like I like this a lot is to be good. Has my first beer not my seventh. But always bring your palate for the rest and yes. And then a lot of imperial Stouts are challenging. I mean if you're going to tackle Imperial Stout it's fourteen percent or fifteen percent. You know it's it's not an easy drink or you know you're taking this it's a sip or and it is. You know a little work to drink it. There's something to be said for taking your foot off the gas a little bit and at twelve percent a little bit lighter mouthfeel really thick Imperial stouts and it may make it seem like it's you know not quite the same as

other ones but there's something to be said for being a little more drink a bull a little more accessible but I'm not even sure that this is like Beryl aged It doesn't say anything about being barrel aged a lot of US imperial SAS or drink or barrel age they get like that. Okie bourbon taste. I don't get so much that in a spear and maybe this is just a twelve percent Imperial Stout that's not part you know barrel age. Could be maybe they should be religious it a little of that bourbon in there too. Yeah. All right well. How about Britain you recap the beers that we've had today and then we'll figure out what our favorite beer of the day is already so we started off with the white Lager from Schlafly in St Louis. Then we moved on to the MO Pale Ale from Maine beer company. We have a double dose I.P.A. from outer creek and Lawson's finest liquids then we had the or chopped up from the brewery moved on to two by four deep for Melvin brewing. We had the thirsty trout Porter from Dark our Dark Horse Brewing Company in Bill we finished up with spectral evidence a New England Imperial Stout for a mystic brewery. I like that name spectral evidence. Super scientific it's pretty good. Argile we fix the wheel and you're the closest one to the wheels while you give it a spin for us thank you Don. Jeffery you're starting this week. Jeff I well I'm glad I get to go first. This week because I kind of have a feeling we might not make it at least three of us might pick the same beer. I have to go last. So I already know what my beer isn't you guys know that I do too. I already know your beer too. You know every beer was very good tonight this is a tough show because I mean any given show the main beer company beer might win that ought to create double dose or cha to as good. Every beer was really good but without a doubt my favorite beer tonight was the Mel than two by four. I have very few beers that I just love like that beer and it's so tasty So drink up all the nine point nine

percent is you know awesome to find in a beer. And I just really enjoyed that beer and I'm glad we had it on the show for sure. My favorite beer tonight was the Melton written. All right so for me it's between two beers really obviously I really like the thirsty trout. I'm glad that I've had a couple other porters in the last couple days that I could stack it up against and. I really like it but I'm actually going to go with the mo Pale Ale from Maine beer company because it's not a style that's my favorite I think that it impressed me more. It smelled amazing. I liked the fresh top it had super low bitterness. So that's something that I. Definitely can go for the grassy finish really hit the home run for me so I'm going with Mo from Maine beer company. Ice. So this is unique on my descriptions of the beers that I've had tonight. I always take notes and today I wrote the same word twice on two different beers. I wrote the word impressive on Mo pale ale. And the Melvin brewing two by four. So I'm going to choose the moped it's just the hop flavor blew me away without the bitterness. I just couldn't believe how much there was no regards to flavor without that there ness and it is tropical and drink a bowl and so balanced other beer and I always I always think of this thought process. If I was stuck on an island and the rest of my life. It was only one thing to drink and what would I choose out of all of these it would be the most paleo you're on that island you want to nine point nine. Well I think you know what Dallas is going to do you give us your. So it's really tough show because I mean even the Schlafly for the white lager like I can name a better one than that now. So for the style. It's not my style but fantastic Pale Ale obviously really good. I'd put it up there on the list of the great pale eels there are I can name a better one than that. Or Chahta fantastic beer I want to buy more of this of I can find it. I'm going to go to Total Wine and see if I can get some because it's for the holidays I think it's really good bring it to a Christmas party. I don't think anyone would dislike it. It's going to be a universally acceptable beer and. They'll like it even that the porter the thirsty trout really really good but for me is really rare where I find a double I.P.A. that is that satisfying. I think of all my favorite beers that there are and I I probably take that two by four over any other beer like it's up maybe my favorite beer. You know. Wow Maybe it's a five. You know I mean it's top ten top ten right. If I'm rating it on beer the day that's a five and it's really rare for me to give a five and then. You know I'm like Sim Tra plenty you know and that but anything close to that I know a some saying like I'll take that one. So only had one twelve ounce can the third of that you know so I've only had four ounces of that beer. It's hard to make a decision but I got to get more of it man. If Santa listens to this podcast. You know. Now you

know what I want. Maybe we have to fight it out in Wyoming and go to the brewery. That's an idea. I think I've never been a Miami. Jeff as I have. So excellent beer to buy for my beer the day but two to two if you do I'll get joists phenomenal beers night. If you don't get this list. Try mom. Absolutely. You can't go wrong with any of these years. Sorry. Well that's going to close out our shows Thanksgiving leftovers is in the bag. We have a lot of stuff coming up. I know it was a long three week late in the tween podcast but we're going to be closing out the year with the pretty good line up next week will. We'll have our winter beers show we've been collecting a bunch of winter beers from all over the country and we're going to try those

pretty fair chance that we have a Christmas show coming up you know that all those holiday beers are out of the store right now and we can try those and let you know what we think in the meantime remember shop at Amazon do your holiday shopping and through the beer that a website that's going to make us the money so that we can keep the lights are here at beer the day world headquarters. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week for Jeff Miller Britton Minor, Joel Minor. I'm Dallas Heliker. We'll see you next time right here on the beer the day podcast.