Part two of our Midwest Odyssey takes us to Illinois, Indiana and Ohio as we visit Three Floyds, Half Acre, Pipeworks, Rhinegeist, and more. Plus, in the news we look at the recent mergers and acquisitions in the craft beer world.
Part two of our Midwest Odyssey takes us to Illinois, Indiana and Ohio as we visit Three Floyds, Half Acre, Pipeworks, Rhinegeist, and more. Plus, in the news we look at the recent mergers and acquisitions in the craft beer world.
This is the Beer of the Day Podcast. Are you ready for part two? Lol you know it. Through the miracles of the day time machine it's only been ten minutes. And the second half of our recap the Midwest trip show. We kept our visit to Minnesota Iowa and Wisconsin on. The journey through Illinois Indiana and Britton and Joel's trip to Cincinnati Ohio I don't know if you're joining me did I. Just. AM Let's Bert's who barely got in there long time no see guys good afternoon good evening Steve don't like Joe because you're looking better today. Thank you. He does not drink since the last episode minute by minute bells rang beer goggles the the beers from the previous episode of kicking at this point I feel great so. Wisconsin and drove down to Illinois. We drove past Illinois Chicago down to Indiana but first we're going to try a beer that we have in the beer that a vault from Alton Illinois. This is the old bakery beer company the citrus wheat beer. This makes me
curious as to the name of the Brewing Company was it an old bakery or did they used to bake and now they make beer the story there that's what I want to know well maybe we can I know there's a lot of writing on the can so after Joel's done pour and you can read the can. Start off nice and light here this is a pretty hazy color like a golden yellow golden orange it's kind of been the theme of these Midwest beers so far they all have kind of a similar yellow lemon eighty Look Senator I just want to point out that the can is beautiful First of all in the beer color matches the yellow color that's on the bottom half of the can almost perfectly. I can see that there you go. Jerome here is pretty interesting like it's weedy and like. Floral I mean it's it smells very interesting and unique for this beer it's an aroma of the It reminds me of something from my childhood but I cannot put my fingers on it it reminds me of a sour lemon cookie it smells like Kam a meal tea with a lemon wedge. Yeah I think you're right it's pretty good. Herbal but there's some a lot of sweetness that in the in the in the in the nose it's got a super super foreign head like it's very thin but the bubbles are incredibly small. And what I have is probably like maybe a finger and that's just sticking around Does anybody else get like ginger on this a little bit that's what I was thinking of the aroma but I I think it's common meal but I think house to get some ginger Well the can says coriander and once said that I like that's kind of a kind of a flavor that I'm getting out of it you know it could be that. Is a kind of a more herbal oriented though like sometimes coriander is always paired with those very orangey type of we this isn't that you do get the wheat. But it's more it's it's not super orange you some lavender or something in there it's a lavenders well. I'm just it's like a potpourri of I don't it's kind of like a heifer why isn't it like with a lot more floral and herbal flavors to it and this is this is really a very complex beer it's probably more complex than a lot of the strange beers that we have and I say complex I'm just doing a lot of different flavors that I'm not normally getting in beers that I have I'm a third I'm getting it's very light mouth feel a little bit watery on the on the aftertaste it's not really lingering around too much you do get that bunch of herbal type of spices and then it just dissipates very quickly I almost think they forgot to put the beer in here.
Anyway and others like no hops or malt to me at all only you know try to put them all profile try to get a high profile It does taste like Popery was liquefied I like we're laughing but I think Steve's dead on I think that it really does just taste like not a beer at all. But it's you got to like what they're going for here I mean this is a summer time Mowen your grass type of beer it's very light it's almost like a shandy in a little little way. Like a lemon square Yeah Lemon Bar maybe yeah Lemon Bar Yeah. It's what they want this beer to be it's not something most of us are going to drink and enjoy but it's what some people enjoy it's a four point seven percent it's a light beer to start out the show. Yeah it's organic and it says Please
recycle on the Can six times so I'm going to recycle this OK so the organic thing is interesting because we. I've had discussions about this about. Does organic make it beer better or worse as far as flavor was completely irrelevant I agree you're
going to have a certification in buying you're buying your product from a certified organic producer and strictly means the amount of pesticide that was used in the growing process of the plants not to want to just point though I know this is the case
for coffee I don't know if it's the same for berries but a lot of coffee is also organic it's not certified organic because the process to be certified is like and things a lot of people don't do it. Yeah so to your point I think it's relevant I will tell you that I'm glad it's organic and not gluten free because if anybody out there has had a gluten free beer and enjoyed it then your something's wrong with you even go get your head checked. So this period it was very Judge Starr is from. All to Illinois which is just north across the border from St Louis Missouri So this is a while back to Missouri beer very close so this is the southern edge of Illinois we didn't make it down there to this brewery but we did have plenty of. Chicago beers which we'll get to but first when we were driving down from Madison we went across the state line to Indiana Munster Indiana where he goes people are from. South all the gills out there and we went to a very famous brewery everyone's heard of them three Floyds. No I haven't heard of them. Well now you have and we have the zombie dust Pale Ale So I'm excited to try this beer because like Dallas said it's a very popular Brewery one of the things that I do on my spare time is I I brew at home and this is one of the most. Recipes for home brewery is the zombie dust people try to mimic this beer and there are tons of recipes online so I'm so excited because of how many times I've come across this recipe to actually try it from the brewer so yeah.
Here goes. So we walked into this place they had their big festival the following day right what's what's was the name of the Dark Lord Dark Lord so they had about six hundred port a potties and lined up around everywhere and about enough parking to. I don't know it was a credibly large event they were planning for so I think they're bringing about six thousand people for this event I do want to year kind of like a cigar cities once a year they release a spear big festival everybody comes out. So busy Don't talk too much Yeah they were you could tell they were all like rushing around getting ready for the event and they didn't really have much time for so we didn't get the royal treatment here but the at least took our order. Can you not say the same for other breweries. Did you get any where they didn't figure the one that close that since none that I can recall. Well we like Ballast Point did not on our request for one of everything so that qualifies. And they're never hear the end of it one guy ten years ago does the Kleins to serve his beer. And that's it we've mentioned it like twenty times you know we went to bottle logic and we asked for one of everything and they looked at the sideways for two seconds then like yeah we can. Oh that's OK. So this beers zombie dust is like you said one of their most famous beers but I think Alpha King is probably their flagship here but zombie dust I think has gotten a lot more notoriety the last couple years this is a. It's not clear but it's not. It's not opaque. It's kind of a golden yellow color also with a pretty sizeable foamy had off white and it's fresh This is bottled on May tenth so it's less than two weeks old. Yeah we got this like a day or two after it was bottled. Super Fresh was that one of the ones that Hugo dropped in the parking lot. And may have been I got a little bit of a soggy six pack and all my all my beers came tumbling but luckily the guys there replaced them for me so did you cry I probably would've cried I did a little bit everybody in the parking lot poked fun at me as they said there was six thousand people coming there so quite a bit of people saw me drop. Literally walking out of the place and all of a sudden six beers just fall out of the bottom of a six pack and he screamed Yeah. I feel like that the adult version of a kid losing his balloon he got sympathy from everyone around they didn't replace the beers for free that's really good yeah we can say that's never happened at the beer the headquarters of for. Everybody. So this is it reminded me of when I was a kid and I dropped my cone on the floor that's that. I had the same thing happen here where I was moving a stone to go I.P.A. the counter was wet and I was bringing it out
to the fridge and it the bottom dropped out and six beers exploded on the tile floor here. It was a mess I think of all the picture of the carnage it was pretty I wrote it on the beer the day Twitter feed but this was like maybe a year and a half ago but I think the hallway still smells like beer Well if you listen to we're going to cut this out of the show but one time we dropped a whole bottle of liquor here one point five leader was it was I think of liquor and then we actually saved it and siphoned it through like a coffee straw. For. It was like it was a million dollar bottle of something or scotch or something yeah yeah we drank it though you know we did you know that I don't really I don't know if you were here or not that happened there was only a few glass shards and one drink. We saved about forty percent of it anyway spittle for dirt makes everything that is. So that we talk with you at all no not really you want to get killer and we've got an orange just copper color not to think of a head here it's reserve but you know the lacing is really good on the side of the glass I get a slight hop aroma a little caramel malt and a little orange to it two little orange fruit and those of you who are fans of secure hops That's the smell you're getting we're getting a lot of secure hops so the first taste I can understand why this might be a very popular homebrew recipe. You guys all know that I'm not a huge I.P.A. drinker and I think that Spears is delicious it's not in the pale with the Pale maybe that's why I like it better but it's really good. Like what I found interesting on this trip is most of the well known beers that a lot of breweries went to our pale ales were used to finding like I P A's as the you know flagship beer it but it's mostly pale ales almost you know everywhere we went on this trip and this is a good representation I mean this is it's an extremely well balanced beer it's not really I can't call to a West Coast style it's not to Malta either it's just very well balanced and this is what I like flavor wise and a pale ale even to build on that I would call it remarkably smooth I mean yes I mean it's so smooth that I mean you could just I mean there's no problem you could shut this beard down to just point the first thing that I wrote down is that it's very well balanced there is a sweetness there but it's balanced by a nice hot betterness that makes that just very enjoyable and to Steve's point it's just really smooth. I could drink this all day long so let's talk about pales. You got to compare this to Syria that. Syria that a pale ale is I think the pale that everything is compared to on the West Coast and. I think it's stacks up extremely well I actually like this better this is Sitra hop and and and Syria better pales Kaskade. So there's going to be differences there Syria has a very prominent malt backbone to taste all their beers have and since I'm not used to. Three Floyds I don't know you know what their malt all their beers taste like I don't have that frame of reference but I do think it's very well balanced and really good flavor and. You know what if I was at three Floyds and we were ordering beers there I was at the point in the trip where I had been to you
know fifteen breweries in three days like and I was about done with beer at that point so I was kind of subpoena not really drinking full pours of anything and not really enjoying beer at that point I can taste this and say. Definitely very enjoyable. You know I'm not I wouldn't say that I hate pale but you know it's not the style of beer that I gravitate towards but I can easily see myself drinking a six pack of this by the pool when we're having a party and that's. That's not you know normally what I would drink if I'm not going to party it's got Yeah yesterday we had a pool party at Britain Jules House and the package came in for Joel and he had. Packed a bunch of the beers and put them in the ice chest so we had a bunch of random beers from all over the place yesterday and this would have fit right in with it I think this would have been it's really stacked up there with all the good beers that we had I wish I had a picture doll's face when he realized that as to where package came in it was like kid in a candy store times five. It was like the most it's the most excited I've ever seen him look at my life. So the way you know you said it Dallas you know you stack everything up to C.N.N. Vatican when I compare this to C.N.N. about it it doesn't have the bread and wheat profile you get a lot with your Nevada you know Sirrah Nevada is very weedy in a good way but we're used to that bread taste this is less dry and it's a little bit more sweet than Sierra Nevada I just had here in Nevada Pale not that long ago which is Star is very unusual for me either yesterday but I just drank when I I like this better because to just point it more sweet and I think that theory about a pill also has a little bit of like that coppery metallic flavor to it that is kind of like the trademark of all Sierra Nevada beers but yeah that rust rusty malt flavor and one of the things I like about this beer is it has a very slight caramel taste and I mean it's barely there and I was there really like it for sure that's the sweetness I mean I agree they like the caramel sweetness makes this beer unique among pale Alz yes but also. The copper ale used to be the thing that I love I love copper ales and you don't see them anymore and they
don't know when brands themselves out anymore but I do get some of those qualities with this and I enjoy that so there's a lot of joy about this beer. So for a few weeks since we've done a podcast and this came out right as this news broke right as the last Pod. This came out and we didn't get to include it in the show but it's worth mentioning. That a B N bit has struck again we brewing in Asheville North Carolina which is one of the the up and comers their big brewery there got bought out by and has for Bush and it caused a. Rip Tide whirlpool effective all kinds of drama in the craft beer industry. So that was one big one I think maybe the same day or the day before Heineken and large Anytus announced the Heineken was purchasing the remaining fifty percent interest in luxury to us so now a lot of us is completely owned by Heineken. Marketing This is retaining its own entity as a company within Heineken So there's still a ton of us but. It was pretty crazy like when logging in to
sold fifty percent of their brewery Tony McGee The owner of logging in to said well you know we had to do this for our investors and for the company you know. It's good for the company because we're going to have all along you this is distribution but we're not so in fifty one percent we're selling fifty percent what are the first one billion dollar deal government right after billion half so this is the other half a billion that the other shoe fell but all the spin that he put out back then and I kind of I bought it and I was defending it and and now you know there's it's all it's all Heineken Now a lot of money there so I think that I probably come from a different place than a lot of other people about these deals I think that the pitchforks came out and were at the ready for both of these deals and I don't really care as long as the beer is still good if the beer suffers that's when I have a problem with it like OK like the bears coming in now I know that there are other factors. That play especially like they've been highlighting that you know ab endeavor whatever tries to dominate the hops and to dominate the hops they dominate the distribution the shelf space yeah then I do have a problem with big beer does everything they can to prevent the encroachment and to deter craft beer from gaining a foothold they're fighting for their survival I mean that's you know they don't litter survival with the big guy if I'll call them. And so they have the purchasing power so I'm on the side of the little guy and I was at the bar the day that this came out and I saw on the board up on the board they had the brand new born yesterday may have been a couple of days old. Fresh born lucky just born yesterday and I wanted to order it and I didn't order it I got a man I got to field work something else. Well so I'm doing a lot of art craft beer. I have other news that I don't know if you guys have heard and this might break Joel's heart but did you hear what came out yesterday the brewery is selling a major stake to private equity for the brewery in Placentia. Yesterday So toity of beer drinkers you know and I'm I feel better about that like when a brewery partners I mean they say they use the word partners and you know I want
to think it's not selling out but they're partnering with the private equity firm I am much more OK with that than selling to A.B. in bad Miller Corps something like that but it's still I mean it's it's going to it's a it's a company that is trying to survive and make money and. Hopefully it doesn't make things worse you know hopefully they keep the same bear quality but yeah the brewery wants to keep growing and expand and so they're partnering with this private equity firm and that's how they feel they have to do it I think about great if they don't have to charge fifteen to twenty dollars a bottle anymore. You know that is a good move. You're going to have probably cost more Speaking of which I just paid for a thirty dollars bottle with a collaborative brewery and three Floyds Yeah that was the thought is aside now it's harder than ever as a side note Costco had Ryan Ryan Ryan they were selling out of it and it was six dollars a bottle for Ryan Ryan rye that's cheap I saw it for nineteen the other day I bought four of them have that's a one and done ladies and gentlemen. Miggy fifty seven explained his thoughts in a rambling blog post in which he also noted that he still successfully wakes and bakes most days with marijuana. I had a strong sense from the start that we would find a way to play a larger role with Heineken they are calmly aware that they are not able to do the things that we do easily that small brewing has a destiny in the world and they want and even need to be a part of it and I am aware that they can easily do things in the world at large that we cannot do it all either so basically he wants to bring logging this I.P.A. to Africa and everywhere else in the world and I guess with the Heineken paying him a billion dollars that they'll be able to do that. Once a fine man agenda will move into the next. OK so the trip continued We went down to Munster three Floyds hung out there for a bit we drove back up north we saw Chicago we saw the Sears Tower and the Hancock building on the horizon growing bigger and bigger as we headed north and then we were in the. Downtown Chicago and first we went to pipework but we're changing the order Her little bit we're going talk about half acre first and a half acre was a we took in who were up there from our hotel who were drivers playing in the pop hits of the day I learned some Taylor Swift songs and so. Other ones I had heard before and we've finally arrived at half acre and this place was something else it was the loudest Berry I've ever been to in terms of music level noise level Yes so like the street is was under construction there was like dust and stuff and we get dropped off and there's like a door and we open the door and you walk into the the gift shop where they sell beer in a small little bar for tasting and it was very quiet but you can hear something in the background you don't know what it is so then we go outside go next door in the brewery and this place is. Crock loud like it is really loud just for some reason the acoustics of the room amplify people's voices so the music is loud but the people's voices are very loud and it was just a ruckus atmosphere and they're having a good everyone in the place was having a good
time we happened to find a place at the edge of the bar two people happened to leave so then we sat down and. Ordered some beers and it was a really good experience really fun time at a Chicago brewery. You know one of the I mean loud but one of the most lively breweries I've ever been to and you know that everybody working there was super friendly there was friendly and we had a great time where there for a couple hours had every beer they have they have so many workers that running around everyone doing something in the bar is not that big but I've never seen like eight people working one small bar and they all this move around each other no problem it's like they're used to it but it was it was a feat for sure so we brought back a couple different beers the one we're going to have in the show today is daisy cutter pale L. and this is also their flagship like I mention a pale ale this is the beer the put them on the map. It's very well known in the craft beer community I had never had it before this trip maybe somebody else has had to before. But. It's well known one of those beers probably you know like Joel said the people trying to make you know home brewers copy this recipe so I'm looking forward to this because we had it on tap but they also have this on in cans at a lot of like bars around Chicago I mean it's pretty readily available around Chicago. I think we can amount to a pretty busy weekend because they also have the double pay all the Galaxy hops version of this that they had a can release for what we were there could you say that again. Double pale double Pale Ale Yes Not Double I.P.A. but double pale with Galaxy hops. So it's a pretty clear color. Fairly like golden color but the super white. Kind of filmy had it pretty thick very thick foamy small bubbles when I'm looking at the beer efford sat for a while just a couple little bubbles it seems likely carbonated but if I shake it a little bit swirl it those champagne like bubbles start floating up. Kind of the sweet aroma. Of maybe caramel. It's a nice and I spread pretty smell to it. Going to get some sweetness out of the some. Sweet sweet bread maybe the room so it brought his intestines. So Cinnabon. Super smooth I mean I I like this it's not overly happy. It's got a nice like the bready malt so I don't think it's very sweet it's it's just a pretty well balanced PELAYO I mean this is your classic high quality tasty pale ale but not overly happy if we expected more sweetness with the aroma but on the taste it's not really there and it's nice to. Balanced I think that it's a little less balanced than what you guys are describing and that's I'm only comparing it to the zombie dust which I thought was really really well balanced and smooth
this is a lot less sweet and I feel like there's a lot more bitterness with this one than there was with the zombie death so it's kind of unfair that maybe I'm trying these back to back and directly comparing them but I think it's a lot less. Balanced than this I think the order is wrong I think it's hard to go from this we are to hear more dry beer yeah and so this one suffers a little bit in the comparison but I don't think that's a it's a bad beer. It's not bad I think maybe this one is more drinkable and maybe it won't last it's welcome or whatever whereas drinking something too sweet for too long eventually you're going to your pal is going to grow tired of that this is a little more crisp and drinkable. It's definitely lighter body
yes. I think there's Ami dust had just more hops and more borderline pale I.P.A. characteristic This is a true like Pale Ale and we sometimes get away from that I mean I think more and more places are making pale ales it tastes like I.P.A. is because
of all the you know need for extra extra hops and this is just goes back to like the true Pale Ale that a lot of us appreciate even though we love hops I like to go back to this as an original Pale Ale style Yeah it's very pale ale ask like like you said it's closer to Sierra Nevada than zombie dust is by far and I don't I think I've maybe in my description I give it short shrift I don't think this is a bad beard I actually think it's very good and it ends more crisply than those on be death does I think it's lighter mouthfeel though I almost compare it to the surly Sitra I.P.A. extra I.P.A. on the previous program more so than the. Just had. Absolutely I will gladly call myself out that I'm the domestic guy on the podcast like on the course like man this is to me like I mean this is the corps lie like pale ills I mean it's like. It's just crisp and dry and it's the things that's appealing about a domestic to me is what you get here it's real easy to drink it's not. No flavor you're
going to like well like it's just super easy to sip on. Word Well said. Hard to believe already halfway through the second half of the. Trip to the Midwest. When we come back we have VS unicorn double I.P.A. and then we're going to some darker. Porter
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up the back gate and things would shift during transit and then we'd we lost maybe four or five beers during the trip. That just fell in exploded and then we'd have to drink them as the cans were squirting out well true true to form here I was getting the beers for the next part of the show out of the refrigerator I opened it up and I dropped the can of ninja versus unicorn and it. Basically the. The hole in the can was small enough that it was able to spray about ten feet and so the entire room is just. Covered in beer the floor sticky I think we already know what the beer smells like because you can still smell it everywhere this point but VS unicorn I luckily had another couple cans so we opened another can and here it is another one that got kind of that yellow golden poor with a finger to a foamy is more cloudy this one yeah little cloudiness on it I can't really see my finger through it is just a shadow now if it's because the aroma has taken over the room like Don mentioned or
is just very reserved but I'm not getting a whole lot out of the glass on the nose. I feel differently I get a lot of a Roma there's a ton of in my opinion a lot of hops in this aroma that draws you in thank you Jeff as the hops sticky for sure like I was going to describe the aroma as very like intensely sweet and Poppy. Yeah. Agreed. That is good. Little This is good this is one of those beers Lance you're familiar with the Spirit this is a well known beer right what what should we know about this before we try so this is probably one of the most highly sought after beers if you want to trade for something this is something that usually comes up on on Instagram a lot very small distribution footprint that they have hard to get here in California. A cult classic. Definitely difficult to get and the second time that I've had it and I understand why this is a great beer I don't think they have a tap room either I think when we were there and we were talking to the person out there one of the guys that was serving us let us know that you do like tap takeovers at different bars but they don't think I don't think they have their own tap room they take somebody else's temper him over and they see. Their beer for that particular event but they don't have their own taste room so we went to this place oh it's a huge brewery it's in a warehouse in a. Suspect area of town. The drive in was pretty interesting interesting drive make sure to lock your car and then you go inside and everyone's running around Macon beard's a huge huge place and then they have this one little area cordoned off with. A bar where they serve you little one symbol filled. Pores of beer and you can taste whatever you want up to two and then buy with everybody or from there what were they half an ounce tasters and they were very very small which is actually more than what we expected because we thought there was no tasting at all we thought it was just like a retail store where you buy stuff to go but we were able to taste you could taste as many as you wanted but they were like a half an ounce each posted that they were too but they would open Well they didn't follow that because I had several. No actually they followed it to the letter of the law.
But even they would open cans like if I want it if I was thinking about buying or pack they would open a can so that I could try a little bit before I bought the four pack which was pretty cool when you have limited space one thing I will say is for something is so highly sought after they had no restriction on how much you could buy if you want to buy two three cases they were going to let you walk out the door no problem we didn't have them at storage space though so. I think the whole ordeal
there in the parking lot was kind of interesting because you mention the space and that's when we emptied out the minivan try to make room and package everything and so here comes the brewery as he sees us with hundreds of beers and strode across his parking lot and he asked us a little bit about what we're doing so I thought that was kind of interesting when he's out there talking to us yeah I think it was J.D. he used to work in a brewery in L.A. really cool guy came out to just ask what we're doing so many. A van full of beer and so he was really interested in the beer the day so let's talk about this beer flavor wise so this is I don't know if. I don't know if you guys are wearing me down or if we just had like a really good run of like pails and. But this is another to me like it's a very well balanced it's a little bit more bitter than I prefer But it's it's hockey it's bitter I can see why people like it not terrible I don't hate it I'll jump on that train but because we are
you know well known have similar tastes and it's that I mean I don't I don't love this Piers not my style that got to have this but it you can taste the you can taste how good it is you can taste how much love they put into making this and I mean there's nothing about of that I'm like I can't drink that it's not and it's not to be the first thing I grab but yeah it has it's good it's I feel like we're complementing it coming in from an event that's kind of when I get a tropical hop flavors up front. It's pretty sweet there's a fair amount of sweetness there low bitterness. No booze kickin all whatever it says on the can as far as alcohol goes it's eight percent I think so yeah in the US than that for sure I also get some like melon maybe like bitter melon I think there's a little bit of bitterness here but I think I get a melon taste that reminds me of Melbourne beers and that sort of the texture and the mouthfeel that I get from Melbourne beers that I really enjoy and you know it's a double I.P.A. but it doesn't taste like eight percent like you said but I like the melon and a little bit of tropical flavors Yes the tropical hops with a combination of a crammer Lay and a little bit of bitterness that makes these beer have a amazing
the mouth feel as well as after taste I mean it is it's pretty nice it's like a the desert beer without being too sweet it's got just great flavor. You can definitely tell Britain and. We because I get no bitterness I think that in Steve Sorry Steve sorry. But I get no bitterness I think this is really easy drinking double I.P.A. percent I don't feel it at all. Alcohol I don't taste at all but I mean there's some bitterness for me I get the hops some in there are there prevalent for me but. I
don't know if I pick up on that exactly but it did get me kind of this creaminess to it like a milky quality. Milk stouts how would be different than a regular stout I almost think this could be like a milk I.P.A. the has an appealing quality to it for me. But I think the bitterness here is is very pleasant like most I.P.A. fans or double I.P.A. fans enjoy some amount of bitterness it's when it gets to be overly bitter that I don't think we enjoy it as much but this has some bitterness but it it
really adds to the flavor and the appeal of the spear I want bitterness but I want to balance out by something else in this you have a really good job yeah yeah and there's a difference between the up front in the front your tongue in the back your throat bitterness This has the bitterness up front it doesn't have that long lasting bitterness try ness in the back your throat that you get from some I.P.S. that some people don't like that intense bitterness but this one doesn't have that agreed completely Yeah OK well let's move on to the next beer oh wait a second. The next beer is the M.P.H. Imperial Porter from ninety brewing in Glenville Illinois. I wasn't sure that we'd have a strange brew on this program but I read the label and I said you. You know what I'm calling it executive decision. Like that. What makes it strange South has ingredients that are strange. Yeah that with you know the descriptive cayenne pepper and pomegranate juice in a porter. Who wanted us to find the Cayenne on our own I think that's what he did and there it was like to surprise us with hot things you know I just didn't have the bottle in front of me and couldn't remember. Very dark a little bit just not at the bottom of the first dark beer we've had I mean we had oh yeah whole show of lighter golden color beers and then. More on this show and now we finally get a dark one it definitely smells Imperial got to you know Coca-Cola color a lot of dark amber highlights peeking through on the edges kind
of a. Light Brown Yeah most reddish colored head and I can smell this as I'm pouring it it's got a strong aroma It's smells. Like an imperial if that could be it in a Roma that's what I would describe but it's also really split it was alcoholic yes it's super small super chocolaty to me alcoholic I get coffee like who are and I do get the heat from the Pepper Yeah I get like a. Dark cherry like chocolate covered cherries aroma. That's good yeah like that so if you need to go get a tissue just go get it because it will have been stricken with. Using attack you. Think you definitely tell states that. If you didn't take your private sec you'd better have done so already. I'm afraid to show. And I like on the bottle says Don't pussyfoot around just jump in and drink it it's going to be well there's blames look there's a photo of flames on the label. Am I going to die no you're fine you five up my. Hugo my two. OK. There's enough chi and bite there that reminds me of the breaks I bear that we had where they were. I know this is exactly like the brakes that one really from Europe are when they mix the tap and they try to tell you it was in the pepper barrel or there's no mistaking the freaking flavor like it's fun it's a lot of variety and so I took a sip and I got a lot of dark cherry up rug and then it just smacks you with cayenne pepper burning fire Tabasco it's really very kind and warm and I mean if you like a dry heat here's the problem this is the beer you buy discreet with your friends like this is not like I mean no one goes oh I want this beer and apparently people do you know if there is a market for it on and so they like like that up front it's like dark fruit and that's pleasant and then the Cayenne is a little
bit unpleasant like it's a little bit too intense for me but this beer has one of the better like very lingering aftertaste that I've had on any beer it's very nice like ground coffee flavor with a little bit of chocolate it's it's thoughtful but it hangs around for a long time and it's a long long aftertaste but I really actually really like the after taste I get is is the heat I mean this is it lingers for me and all of that he's gone from burning in the back of my throat it's still there so you know what the thing is like you know how be beer has like that wax covering on the top and the cap this needs to have like a wax covering in a string that has like four pry loose sex on the side of it so as you drink it you just pop a pride is what you can bob for pilots like yeah. You know it's not it's not a bad tasting beer but def we needed a ton chaser with it. You know. What I want to can I what I want to say about it is that I wish every taste could be the first thing is the problem for me with these with these hot beers is that every taste you take it gets hotter and hotter and hotter and it just keeps going through it keeps ruining it for the flavor the first sip I took you I mean I think down much in that you know the chocolate cherry that Jeff could smell and it was the I got a nice chocolate and coffee I mean it had a really good flavor but then every step I take sense and it's just the heat keeps getting more and more blurred I didn't leave in like the first step and now the second third or even worse I think well if you're sick of my clear sign and. That's a good point I think Braden was right on with the ground coffee it taste a bit like that the bitterness that you get from like coffee grinds. But what's interesting is I don't really to supply my granite juice maybe the heat is so overpowering that you don't get that but I get for them to put that so prominently on the front of the bottle I don't get much of the pomegranate it's in there somewhere it's hard to detect but I do think some of that dark fruit that I called dark cherry might be pomegranate Yeah I think it's in the front I think it's at the very beginning and it is a little bit you see I mean in terms of him and we Britain I drink porters a lot I mean you would you say this has a juicy quality I absolutely it's like an old western like or something it's shot in the arm and had to pull the board out like this is the shit you pour in your arm so it seems at times is it. Yeah but it's complex I mean I could it's very complex I could give you ten different flavors that I get from the spirit if you give me ten ninety. I get it I or Jeff I think it's super complex I'm actually really enjoying it the pepper is a little bit hard to like move past because it's so prominent it's like right up front kicking in the face. But I actually think everybody should try this beer it's I like how they have a food pairing on the label of the bottle here icecream. Grilled rib eye or smoked brisket No
I wouldn't eat that with this I mean if I made the spirit and I like the flavors I would just cut the cayenne pepper like in how yeah and I think I'd be much more drinkable I have one sip of his beer left I don't want to do it but I'm going to do it anyway never poured out a beer before of the port of Les. You know Joy and I don't know do you make a monster who you might get on a. Terrible. Oh I know he did I like the complexity of it I think that. The Cayenne really takes away from the fact
that it's ten point eight And that actually hides the alcoholic Normally they use like a sugary sweetness to hide the alcohol the pepper has the alcohol in this and it's actually fairly like high octane but you can't it's not you know I wouldn't describe it as boozy definitely had the alcohol yeah but I didn't know it was ten point A Yeah at some point so like the pepper does serve to high I actually appreciate that because normally it's like an over sweetness that would hide the aisle but in this
case I think I just have the alcohol. Yeah I agree but you're right I did not even it's pretty high I think about the alcohol because I was worried about the word about fire in the back of my throat yeah that's the point that I wanted but I Well Lance and Hugo and Jeff and I were in Chicago drinking a bunch of beer there. Joel and Britain were in Cincinnati not too far away from Chicago actually and they were able to visit a couple different breweries but the first one we want to talk about is Ryan guised. The Rhine ice is interesting the over the Rhine area of Cincinnati is kind of like it was down and out for a while and now it's back being Regent to fight or whatever you want to say and. It's like the new place to go in Cincinnati it's really awesome. They're building it back up and running by Spirit actually took over the oldest wall they took over the building of the oldest brewery in Cincinnati which was more aligned so the building is from eight hundred ninety five and that's
the first thing you notice like when you go to the Burry is the building is crazy and it's huge it takes up probably two blocks like two three blocks is the whole building so you walk you have to walk up like all these stairs it's on like the third or fourth floor of the building and it's how dull How many people do you think were there it was pop and it rang guys and had to be a thousand to fifteen hundred people were inside the brewery I mean that school the amount of people who were have you ever seen more at a brewery before no no never no no I've never been to have been close like think of like here in Nevada on the scale of like the entire facility and then think of like that being like the tasting room where everybody has they had probably six to seven things of cornhole set up with like all sorts of other games they have a rooftop area like the amount of people that they can fit there is insane and we went on and Saturday night so it was really busy right but it was awesome like how huge it was and rank ice is great I mean you could probably fit two football fields inside of that warehouse which is also there tasting room which is funny to call a tasting room but it's gigantic You know there's a lot of aircraft hangar there's a lot of the really there's a line to go upstairs to a different section of the rooftop and we tried a couple beers while we were there and I've had a lot of Ryan guys beer that's right I'm from and I went to high school there. And I will tell you
it's like a club scene except for you're not with any club types of people the craft brew people in general people who like crack killers are just chill people you know you see people anywhere from like seventy you know to twenty one but everybody was really chill but it's like. A destination in Cincinnati like hey we're going to start tonight oh we're going to go to Ryan Geist and that's where we're going to chill and hang out all night it was it was crazy in a good way like it was overwhelmingly gigantic You know awesome. So we did have the beer that we are going to now know spoiler alert Santa sorry. So yeah and before that what is the brewery went to that was probably the best unique beer experience I've had was that called so you're your brother in law my bro our brother in law he always finds new breweries to take assume we go to Cincinnati So this trip he took us to urban artifact which is awesome in itself because it is in we think Patrick's Church on the north side in North Side Cincinnati so the church has been around since one thousand nine hundred five I think so it's really old it's not a church anymore so the brewery took over this whole church it still looks like a church it's beautiful. And there I wouldn't think I would describe it as like an experimental brewery they have all sorts of crazy crazy like beers there we had to try some good ones then mazing sour selection so I was really impressed there's magic brewery in Cincinnati as well but it's really cool to see these microbreweries and try the unique stuff they're putting out so we are really impressed with our experience in Cincinnati there are three rivers that I would just wanted to mention quickly like from urban artifact the first one was the
Squeezebox which was their strawberry sourdough and I would agree that it with it's probably one of the best beers we've ever had like you have are fantastic. And then there was slide rule which it wasn't my favorite was a chocolate raspberry Gosa So that's kind of a weird combination like a very strange brew and it kind of went over awkwardly I would think like the chocolate raspberry was there but it was salty and like I didn't feel like it interesting though yeah it's interesting but it didn't
mesh chalk Well you said it was. The chocolate goes a chocolate raspberry goes wow yeah that would be a strange Berry It was odd it was odd and then the last one that we had was our I had was the pinwheel which was the sour go to and that was really good it's probably the best ever had but we were talking about this on last podcast in the earlier half of this podcast today and we talked about bringing growlers to your local you know micro brewery in nonstop we were there the local neighbors would just come in bring their growler fill it up and go home and drink their beer It was nonstop people just coming in and leaving with their growlers for the day it was a it was a great experience to see that micro culture and urban area were being
taken care of and your you see a church is going to go out of business or be demolished and instead a brewery comes in and says we're going to take this beautiful building and turn it into a center of culture as well as like a place where people can hang out you know it was it was really fun to go to it's a new kind of place of worship. That's true you know we talk about the bubble and we talk about the the. Future of craft beer I think being able to have local viability where people are coming in and filling their beer locally in taking it home and it builds up the local community groups like that probably have a better chance then maybe smaller to midsize breweries that are trying to compete on a level. The same as the big huge group like we mentioned earlier in the show about the shelf space on the grocery stores I mean that's the you know that's how these microbes are going to have to get around of those hurdles that the the micro companies are going to let them get the shelf space so I don't know what you do don't go to the grocery store come here it's I think I think it's the same thing like with craft breweries I think it's kind of along the same lines. It parallels like the coffee shop explosion where. The coffee shops and the small craft breweries are the glue that holds communities together and that's where you go and that's where. Everybody goes for like you enjoy a great beer but there's also a sense of community there that I don't think we get that much on the West Coast and that's what I really like going to Cincinnati for is like that sense of community everybody belongs everybody goes and enjoys the same thing and that's what I think is really good about the small craft breweries it's true but even if you
don't grow the breweries here in Oak Grove Now I go to Flatland I say hey you know what what are you working on what's coming up new it does keep that very small thing lot of growler pours and I think that's happening all over the place so that's that's a definitely a positive aspect of where craft beer is headed right now yeah so you guys were during Geist we have a right guys beer that we got from to for. A lot of the beers we've had tonight we brought back from our trip but a few of them we got on to war and if you want to. Buy beer on tour you can go to T.V. dot beer the day dot com or to view or Ti Vo you are not near the Day dot com We signed up we're going to get ten or fifteen or some twenty dollars I don't know what it is but it's
kind of a cool service they ship the beer to you once a month and they feature probably two or three beers a day if you like the beer you say put it in my box they put it in your box they charge you for it and then at the end of the month they say ship it to you straight to your house just yesterday I was at Joel's house they were out swimming and I was the only person in the house when the doorbell rang I went in and opened the door of the guy's like are you twenty one yes OK so I made. A sign there I got the box and then I went out and I pointed looked through the glass window and pointed at the box to Joel and he his face lit up like a child on Christmas morning yet and so we had a bunch of beers yesterday and it's like that every month with the war so a lot of the beers that we go to this podcast that we can't get in California like we talk about topless. Goliath last week on the show and we were able to get sudo su from to war before we even went to Iowa so it's definitely a good service and you can help us out by signing up through the day T.V. dot beer the day dot com Mastodon this is the beer from Ryan Geist it is a Belgian style dark ale nine point eight percent. So it pours like kind of a light brown it's actually fairly see through maybe slightly cloudy. I call it like it's a little brown brown highlights but it's kind of like a deep like ruby red color yeah like Auburn maybe red assistant Yeah for her and it it's got a. Tan khaki colored head not not super dark but like a tan colored foamy had it had a real good cascade on it when we put it. The aroma on this was it was so great I mean even just from the bottle when Joe was poor and I was getting the nice whiff of the it's the the aroma in the dark fruit figs
and Belgian candy Belgian Candy very strong right but now right bananas Yeah well yeah it's just a classic Belgian ale aroma but but more than that it's like it's more aromatic than your classic Belgian and come in at nine point eight percent this is not something just Scott Fabien you're going to have to you have to work out you have to work out and it is a great winter beer I mean nine point eight is definitely in the Belgian double border and on triple type of alcohol content would be great on this one hundred three second on a degree day to day. So air conditioning is for. But yeah I get you go mention the banana in the aroma I get a lot of banana on the taste it but it's it's sweet like I don't know what it is like that's the. Dark
fruit sweetness that you get in a lot of Belgian doubles is really apparent here it's funny I mean I'm going to say creamy but but even on top of that I mean banana cream but then like if you could get the flavor of ice cream without the cold you know like just like just that flavor it's like but an ice cream I actually think it tastes a little bit like Bananas Foster like where you have like the Flamby bananas with yeah it'll bit of like booze enormous nation of it too yeah that's super pleasant We actually we didn't want to spoil it but we actually this is the one that I chose when we were at Ryan Geist and I feel like it tastes different out of the bottle it's very much more we we really really had to work out at the brewery. And I feel like it may have I don't know if that bottle conditioned a little bit better something mellowed out a little bit like it mellowed a little bit from what we had at the brewery and it's much more enjoyable here than than what we had so I when we were there I had sixteen ounces of this at Ryan Geist you know I did know how to finish it for but that was also my fourth beer of the night so I mean we had right guys was our last stop so we had to work at it but I feel like it's mellowed a little bit image to see what you guys in what you guys down L.A. think about this. Pasadena sorry but yes the L.A. where. I enjoy it I mean Belgian doubles are the. Style of Belgian beers that I I enjoy the most and I like the balance between the malts and the sweetness sometimes they're too sweet and this stuff might have some sweetness but it's not it's not too sweet. But I like the fruitiness and the candy flavors I think it's a tasty beer I have a hard time drinking the whole bottle myself but I think to share among friends it's a it's a tasty interesting beer and I definitely agree. I definitely do get that banana Foster's flavor that somebody mentioned it was you get those Carmel notes and I enjoy good well they have a barrel age version of this which
maybe will have this on a future podcast I'm I'm interested to see how how it turns out when it's in the barrel I'm not sure what kind of barrels they used but it's not it's a pretty smooth beer like this and so you know it's not like a it's not hot you know that it's not alcoholic or boozy so I don't know how it's going to be barrel it's usually that changes the beer a lot I would love to try the parallage version of this. Joel and I just had a collective realization that the one that we had
at the brewery was the barrel aged one. And that was why so it was it was a little tough. You know it was. Better that I mean that's the reason I mean I have both of them in the fridge right now and Jeff and I decided to just do this one because we want to age the barrel one for you know another six when I was here so I would hope that the barely dry on let it mellow because it's a little bit tough it's very boozy it's a lot more I would say like the dried fruit and that's like the thing that I
think I'm enjoying about this bottle is that I didn't get the banana at all like there was no banana there was no Carmel it was like very pronounced like dried fruit it was like bourbon barrels or yeah yeah yeah so that would yeah so im in by this bottle service this bottle says it has peach an apricot I mean are you guys getting that I mean I was thinking there was a little more than banana that I was getting you know I don't know if I was a chalking up like cream and as I mentioned but I didn't pick those flavors out of I can I can tell I go for that now these sort of it's a banana is the main character yeah in this story but it's interesting the. Said the bit I was very reserved in the parallage one so I It'll be interesting to try that one you know couple out recommend a lot that one over in the winter. But I mean. In terms like what a good Belgian always does to me is that yeah we're saying it's oh it's nine point eight going to be is going to hitch a it doesn't I mean yeah I mean you know it's alcoholic but you're not like oh it's not going away I'm going to be busy and in time you have a well crafted Belgian I mean they do over a good job hiding the alcohol and I think that's that's what we get here. That's really funny that we forgot it was barely aged the one that we had always like to know it Belgian students to you oh yeah. They take me to places I rarely go I was thinking the same thing that Belgium banana. All right well that's the last beer we have for night so how about Brittany recap beers we've had them up figure out what our favorite beer the day is already so this episode took us all over the United States well mostly the Midwest but we started off with the citrus wheat beer from an old bakery beer company out of out in Illinois then we jumped to zombie dust pale ill from three Floyds in months dear Indiana had the daisy cutter Pale Ale from half acre in Chicago. We went to the Ninja versus the unicorn depot from pipework spring in Chicago the M.
P. H. Imperial Porter from ten nineteen Glenview and we finished off the night with the mastodon from Ryan guy spring out of Cincinnati Ohio All right Joel the wheels right there you want to give it a spin. A little harder. Thank. You there's a push to the. I can't I'm glad I'm going first I want to go first because I know I'm the only person is going to pick this one. I wanted to Massa Don was really good I appreciated them in diverse you know corner. I think those are going to be the popular answers my favorite beer of the day was the daisy cutter. It had like I mentioned at the time I'm the domestic drinker it had this dryness and Christmas to it that I really enjoyed and I could drink that I had no problem bringing that beer and I would have it again. Well I agree with you on that but my favorite beer of the day is ninja versus unicorn double I.P.A.. You know we set the bar in the previous episode with King Sue I was a big fan of that one and I didn't really think it would be topped
for me. But ninja versus unicorn did top it. It had so much great flavor Poppy newness just enough bitterness initially but then doesn't linger in the aftertaste you can't really taste the alcohol at all to speak of it wasn't even that is sweet as the. As the king SU So the sweetness was a little more reserved understatement a little bit more dry. Great beer really enjoyed that one my favorite beer of the day Geoffrey. I agree with Dallas. Ninja versus unicorn was definitely want to better
beers tonight but I'm going to go with the zombie dust and my my reasoning for this sort of goes back to this trip I mean we were on a one week vacation to all kinds of breweries and like New England style ne style I P A's are all the rage right now and all these hazy beers and it was really nice to go to these breweries and this part of the country where pale ales are still king and you know I mentioned before that you know the flagship beer at most is breweries as a pale ale and I really enjoyed the zombie dust you know just how well balanced it was I'm I'm a big I.P.A. fan to go back but to go back to like a high quality Pale Ale that's a little on the hobby side I enjoyed that a lot and I'm going to go. At the three forwards zombie just because of the flavor profile I truly enjoyed that you know I like it better than searing about a paleo I like it better than mere pond I think it's a very great deal will. You go. I think the zombie dust was very representative of the whole trip all these pails like caps said it was really good beer but I still still from California I like the I.P.A. and I think hands down the engine vs unicorn double I.P.A. is my favorite sort of Lancelot. So I have to go with the ninja vs unicorn. The tropical notes that come through on it how well balanced it is drink ability it's something that I look for it's kind of a continue to separate sunshine from last and said I really really like. It something special and I understand why it's so highly sought after so it's definitely going to be my beer of the day so I had a talk between zombie dust in Mastodon I read them both very highly I am going to go with the zombie dust pale ale because it is the one out of the two that like I think Matthew Dunn is more my style in general that's the type of career that I like that's the one that I would want to drink so I'm going to pick the zombie dust because it's not my style and I really liked that beer I thought it was very well balanced it was hobby but it was sweet and it was super smooth. Pale Ale my beer the day so I didn't have a bad beer today except for one that I regretted which is the mph which wasn't bad I just regret it. But if I did choose a beer of the day it was hard I would choose the ninja versus unicorn so it's fruity it's got a milky taste like milky milf feel and that's like caramel flavor it was a great beer completely agree. I think we had a lot. Going to be years that I'm glad we originally we were only going to pick one beer for the two episodes but we split up to episode episode I think that's a good good bet because it's hard to pick between the two episodes What's your favorite one so might as well just pick the one out of the six and that's fine I will before we go I just wanted to remind everybody that each day at beer the day we feature a different beer as the beer of the day that beer gets sent out to all of our followers on Facebook Twitter Instagram and it gets a lot of exposure and the reason we take these beer cations So we did the MS Midwest trip is to try beer in that part of the country I think the whole trip there is of the twenty five breweries we went to there was just one brewery that I had previously. Everything was new so that just shows you that how rare it is to be able to try beer in different parts of the country even though we do our best to try and try beer from all over the country so. Wherever you live it's very possible that the beer that you get there and you enjoy there we don't get to experience the rest of the United States so you can post that beer as the beer of the day and everyone around the country is going to be able to get a little slice of what beer is like in your area and I think that's important and I want
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that's going to close out the midwest show. We said it was split over two weeks but we just had twelve beers here in a row and. So many good ones it was a good time I don't think there was a bad Berens bunch maybe want to if I like them all and that's unusual. Well. It was it was a trip for sure it was a trip on the podcast it was a trip on the trip itself. Devon a lot of fun. We'll be back in a couple of weeks go take a little beer break through or you know we've had a lot so you know look out yet work at what some of those beer weight about our next show will have something good for you I assure you of that I will be ten pounds lighter helpful it. Will see you next time. For Jeff Miller you go with the lads perks written minus Joe minus the Williamson I'm dealt with you know right here on the Beer of the Day Podcast.