The L.A. Times recently released a list of the top 8 IPAs in the Los Angeles area. We try beers from seven of those breweries. We also discuss the recent acquisition of Eugene's Hop Valley Brewing and the creation of Stone's "True Craft" program.
The L.A. Times recently released a list of the top 8 IPAs in the Los Angeles area. We try beers from seven of those breweries. We also discuss the recent acquisition of Eugene's Hop Valley Brewing and the creation of Stone's "True Craft" program.
From Beer of the Day World Headquarters in Elk Grove California. This is the beer of the day podcast. In the last two months I've made three different trips to the L.A. area and Jeff and I have visited I think pretty much all the breweries they have in L.A. and it each place I've collected beers and brought them back up here to Northern California and we're going to have them tonight. When I go to a brewery and buy a beer usually it's an IPA. So the majority of them tonight are IPAs.
Goody just for you Britton. Joining me tonight Joel Minor Britton Minor or Steve Williamson and on Skype from Pasadena, Jeff Miller and Lance Burks the dynamic duo. Hello everyone. Ready to try some L.A. beers. Absolutely. All right well let's get into the very first one non I.P.A. to start out with a little bit of a warm up beer. It's one of those champagne bottles and he's not here so Joel's handling the beer opening duties tonight. This is for a monkish Brewing Company in Torrance California.
It's called haiku de se saw six point three percent and it was last Sunday that Jeff and I went to monkish first time and we're. We picked this up at the Prairie very fresh. I've been there a couple times I mean monkish is a brewery that's very known for like they're there Belgian style ales like everything on their menu is Belgian ask. And looking forward to this. I'm just curious what does this bottle run. You know retail you know about fourteen and fourteen fifteen. Yeah the brewery itself was pretty cool very busy kind of in a business park. And you go in there and they have a different kind of tasty Normally you can buy the just a little tasters and they give you a bunch of little glasses. This one they give you tokens little wooden tokens chips and then you turn them in get your taster and then they they pour a pretty good half a glass sized taster and then you get to drive three or four of them. Yeah I mean it's good and it's bad. Like if you're the type that likes to have a flight of beers lined up and you want to see like five beers at the same time and taste them all. They don't do that here. It's like one at a time but I kind of like this system because I think you actually get more beer per bird like Phil and you try one at a time you concentrate on that it's just a different system so I kind of like that's like drinking three beers but just little beers and then also it's less glasses from the and have to wash because you're just using the same glass but they wash it out. I will little floored because like this say's on monkish Brewing Company six point three percent is the high Q Is it. Yes OK by syllables or something so color wise it's a cloudy light yellow pale yellow color tiny little bubbles of carbonation floating up and a thin white head with very small bubbles on the head. Fairly good lacing kind of sticks to the side of the glass smell wise. Get a little bit of a grassy miss and then also a little funkiness to quantity and Cork sediment in the
beer. Well it's probably some East or is that we have a little sediment in ours I don't know about you guys are pretty clean I think there is a pretty clean. There's a lot of competition. This is pretty tart. Yeah definitely makes you pucker it's kind of for a saison if that's what this is you know it's a zone is usually a little bit more of a crisp kind of a cloudy but more of a like a log or this is more of like a sour to me but you told me when you got back that they had a lot of sours there and you mention. They do a lot of Belgians this could kind of take on a saison using their kind of their style of brewing. Yeah and I get you know some like banana maybe clove flavors that you would get in a lot of like Belgian ales. It's a little tart but I mean I think this is what US is on should be. It's not too different from a sour ale pretty sour. I would almost call it a sour beer. I would always liken it to a recently. What is age an oak wine barrels so maybe there are some characteristics there that impart flavors into the beer. There is a good reason is quite sweet though this I get I mean it's more sour to me there's not a lot of sweetness here. I think Jeff said it well I mean Britain I just went through four beers from Russian River that were all aged in wine barrels and I think you get some of that you know that wine flavor kind of barrel taste to this beer. It's good it's I think it tastes very clean. It's a very innocent to put a lot of effort into this beer with a lot of good flavors that come out. I do get this close a little bit of coriander a little bit of sour this but. It cleanses the palate really nice. I don't necessarily get like a lever. But I think it has a tan quality where it like you know when you
drink a lot of wine like you bring your teeth together and they kind of stick a little bit or a little dry like hand it to me but it doesn't necessarily taste like wine and so this brewery isn't Torrance which is you know a city in L.A. This is really like an up and coming brewery see and I would say I mean there are several breweries with it within a really close radius to monkish monkish is one of the more established L.A. breweries but I think it's considered one of the better Brewer is so
this is a pretty good representation from the spring. We had a few good ones in there. We had a feminist. I remember as one of their more popular ones and then just star which is like a Belgium Blondel with several really good beers but all Belgian styles. They had one that was kind of a kind of a building where it's more of a hop your true quality to a Belgian kind of like this but instead of the the sour lemon type thing we're getting here. You get the citrus up labor interesting beer. All right
before we get into the next beer anybody have any interesting beers this week they wanted to mention I'd want to start first. You know we're going to the northeast in October. And so this week I was out I had a beer and whenever I see beer from breweries we might go to I'm going to try that and so I was at Whole Foods and on tap at the bar they had a smutty nose finest kind I.P.A. it's money no as I think is the first brewery we're going to go to on our trip in October and it was a solid I.P.A. I mean definitely East Coast style. Sweet but not overly sweet and you know it's I prefer west coast styles in general but this. It was tasty and it made me look forward to our trip in October so. It was an interesting bear of this week that we didn't use money knows but years on the part us where we did we did the bouncy house I.P.A. in a very early episode and then we didn't do it on the show but I had one of their Belgian Abbey ales they've had some pretty good stuff that I've tried. Yeah I
was doing a little bit of traveling in Cleveland this past weekend and I came across a jet and from Great Lakes brewing that Dortmunder gold. My preference for beers is a little on the multi signed and this hit all the marks that I was looking for Definitely good beer you really got the the roasted maul sat back down that came through five percent. So you could have a couple without really feeling it. Great body but not very shelling. So it's definitely something that I enjoyed while I was out there and seen a few people online post a picture of that one you got to have to seek that one out. All right well let's get into the next beer. The first I.P.O. of the night the first of four five six I.P.O.'s. This is not your bro dog. From Eagle Rock brewery Los Angeles California. This I think is maybe the oldest craft brewery in the L.A. area. It's that it's been around the longest I believe this was one of the first ones that we went to that I went to in L.A. But this was a few years ago the first time I went there and there wasn't really that many L.A. breweries it really got kind of a slow start. Compared to San Diego and Portland and Seattle even San Francisco L.A. even fell behind Sacramento in the in the beer scene early on but now
a lot of these breweries have. Popped up to the point where there's so many that you can't you know you can't even go to all of them in a week and you know it's been growing really quickly and you know Lance and I try to go to a lot of L.A. breweries and I mean it's been a huge growth in the last two years but it really feels like the market is not saturated when I go to other areas like San Diego and other places there are so many breweries and that's awesome. But it just seems like there's almost too much that the market can't keep up. But in L.A. we go to these breweries every single place there's a super long line seems like everywhere we go. There's not enough people working there. And so I think they could definitely have you know
ten or fifteen more Perrie's in L.A. and still be fine. Yeah. So this one dog not your bro dog I.P.A.. It is a kind of a light copper color very little carbonation just a couple of little bubbles loading up very thin white head very pungent ma'am. There's not a very strong hop smell to it like a citrus or. Or even like a flower but it is it is a very strong flavor I kind of get some earthy hop characteristics and we're almost so grassy to me. I don't think we mentioned that this is actually a collaboration with flagship Brewing Company in New York Staten Island and the premise of the spear is they were trying to make a coast neutral I.P.A. So I'm curious what like Steve thinks of this because they you know they didn't want to be a West Coast style they didn't want to be East Coast style just sort of a neutral collaboration between these two breweries to see what they could come up with I don't interpret it as neutral at all. It is very west coast to me this would be my typical style of
I.P.A. that I didn't enjoy at all to me it's too happy too bitter as that kind of plasticky quality to it. That it's not my cup of tea. So. I have the exact opposite opinion. This one has a little bit of that caramel malt base and then the hops kick in and it's a very tropical hop flavor. I just love that hop taste that very fruity very tropical sweet whop I think that's my favorite type of hop character. It does have a sweet finish. You know I think it's the people who love West Coast. I Piers
are going to love this beer people who don't like this period that I don't think it's those neutral in any way in my opinion I think it's west coast leaning Absolutely I agree. I don't know I mean I think it's very well balanced and some West Coast I.P.S. can be very well balanced but I think there's enough malts here compared to most of the I.P.O.'s that I drink in California that I can see where they're going with this. It's not a To me it's not truly like order Soli West Coast style I.P.A. I agree I think it's like it kind of punches you with hop right up front but as you left this the pay it gets malty and it does get sweet on the end or in I.P.A. I think it has kind of a clean finish doesn't really stick around for a long time and to me like that. I think that's what Dallas is talking about like when I think of East Coast IP is I think they tend to have a little bit of a cleaner finish the West Coast ones that where the bitterness like sticks around forever. This one is not my bro. It's hard for me to describe I mean I get some weird hot flavors and it's a little tropical but it's kind of all over the place with the hops if this beer reminds me a little bit of a balance between a standard hot the West Coast I.P.A. with a little bit like shoots fresh squeezed it's got that real like tropical heat to it. Yeah. All right let's move into the next beer. This is a another brewery we went to last. Sunday. This is expatriate This is from a three Weavers Brewing Company in Inglewood the future home of the Los Angeles Rams Inglewood always up to no good six point nine percent. Now this is one of the newer breweries in L.A. up and coming. I've had this period for enjoy it and I let you guys form your opinions first. Well my opinion on the color is it is incredibly clear. Yeah yeah it is it's like a wow I don't think I've seen the beer that clear before it also has a huge amount of thick white head. Definitely the most head so far. The three beers or even a comparison super frothy pretty like golden color though for an I.P.A. I mean this is not a darkish copper colored by any means and you guys are like similar to ours I'm looking at your screen there. You've got a lot ahead. Yeah which that kind of tells me it might
be kind of more of a say song kind of style where they tend to get a little bit of that a lot of head on them and that farmhouse. You know very mellow and the smell it smells a lot sweeter to me than the last the last I'm kind of with hops pretty mellow I feel smells mellow. You know the fruit on that smell. Steve you kind of more of a woody smell more like a oak because you that I get lots of tropical aromas ripe melon. I had Irish whiskey yesterday and now you said that it's messy and now I'm smelling like actual whiskey or some sort. Well I like it. I think it's a nice reserved beer. It's very very very drink Well the hot profiles. It's well. Well balanced with the mall profile something being overwhelmed by either flavor. Just nicely balanced. Very light on the malts and then I get a kind of a big. Top kick you know maybe two seconds into the sip it's of adjustment from that last beer so I'm going to apply and these three separate will. Yeah I think the last one really punched you right up front and then tapered down. I think this one is opposite and kind of mild the front in it definitely has like a way more bitter finish last. This is six point nine percent the last one was six point five So it's a little bit more alcohol but it tastes a lot more alcoholic to me than the last one. What kind of hop flavors you guys get like some citrus some tropical fruit. I mean now that is the aroma the same as as the taste or do you think it's a little bit different. I think I think
the taste follows the ear of a pretty well I'd say that the hops for me I call them herbal there's something a little medicinal about the hop flavor somewhat like sometimes some beers I.P.A. some like and you see flavor to the hot like top maybe a Labor Green tea or something like that and the sounds weird. There are any of you guys getting like sunflower flavor to it like a little bit of like nutty It's like barely in there and it wouldn't be a pina if you like a sunflower Yeah I could tell you that and I know some flour. Something like oily oily not just flour oil or so yeah. Yeah that's pretty good. I mean it's pretty resinous like I don't think it's super Piney but there's a lot of resin in the spear. It's kind of thick and sticks to your tongue sticky. That's a good word definitely a coating there. Does it say on the bottle how many hops are in the group. And this is so this is a lot of leverage we want to go there. It was our last stop on Sunday and I had to get to the airport. So we were like. Give us five beers in quick step on it. It's interesting the head brewer at this place is a woman which she used to work at drakes in the Bay Area and went moved down to a different L.A. brewery and then was recruited over three we were is and you know they haven't been around too long but I think they've made a big statement in the last year or so I hear a lot of people talking about three we were is and you know I thought all their beers were good winter there I did too. This is a quality beer. You know it's funny because this one on the bottle says you know it's a West Coast I.P.A. but I feel like the other beer that we had prior to this was much more categorized as a West Coast I.P.A.. This is very very subtle and it's just got a lot of flavors just not I'm not going over west coast I.P.A. style. This is definitely a West Coast I.P.A. it's just as that. Now was because that has become so extreme. Yeah what you drink you're just getting you're being ramped up all the time but in terms of the style it's a West Coast aisle. But I think for me I define an east coast I.P.A. is one that's a lot more ball forward and this is a forward. It's just thought it's just the fact that we taste them all in this one as opposed to a lot of the West Coast. If you can't. I think this is a very west coast style I mean much more so than that you go rock in my opinion when everybody's palate is different but to me this is like the definition of a West Coast I.P.A. three Weavers should get better signing on their building. It's very hard to find Says the person who wasn't driving the let's get into the beer mood of the day right. So. I know what that means other one who is a pretty hot Valley Brewing Company out of Eugene bring field in Oregon is that being bought by beer giant Miller Couper we did a beer on our last program two weeks ago from hot Sally and we talked about how great it was that they you know we're getting their beers down here now and it was a kind of a we were like and everything that was coming out of their up and coming and then not a week later bites the dust. It was advertising too well for Miller Coors. There's a thing that bothers like the day after the merger got approved but in bed also Yeah you know they're saying that that the reason why they sold is because they were finding it increasingly difficult to break into new markets outside of organ which kind of find interesting because like when we went to Seattle some of the a lot of the
Seattle brewery said the same thing like we don't really get outside of like our very local market and they would like to. It's funny to me because you know why don't companies do what other organizations other companies do and different histories not just go public. You know. I mean I see a lot of businesses locally in Sacramento that when they're trying to expand outside of Sacramento they decide hey I want to go on the Nasdaq go public and you know why doesn't that happen in the brew industry why do they sell out to these large breweries instead you know I don't know enough about finances to answer that but it's always shocking to me. I mean part of the answer is in my opinion that a lot of the craft breweries who don't want to sell out their all. You know small businesses that the people on them probably take pride they don't want to be public publicly owned they want to control their own interest. But the ones that do sell they want to get as quickly paid as they can they're almost start up companies they're just trying to cash in on their capital. Yeah point to create a beer that someone is going to want to pay them millions for and they retire so off into the sunset. Yeah and that really leads into the next article. This is Stone Brewery announced a new company called True Kraft and they are basically they put up one hundred million dollars and they are going to start investing in minority stakes in breweries that they deem to be true. Kraft meaning that they are in this business. Not for the quick payday or to sell out but they want they want to be able to grow they want to be able to distribute their beer. They don't want to sell it to the big companies and it's giving them another option instead of having to sell out they can sell a minority to stone and then get the capital they need to expand which I thought is a pretty cool idea like is that basically just like Venture capitalism specifically for small breweries that's what this. That's one source of us for yes it's also a little bit ironic because it's like so loud but just don't sell out a lot to me true. Yeah but I know they're not buying the whole company but a lot of times the bigger companies are buying the whole company either a lot of times they are true. Well it's a good way for them to get access to Stone's distribution as well and I think that direct benefit of this another with the small brewers who really like the craft when they're selling out to the big macro companies. It's because they have that distribution power in that big machine behind them to buy shelf space in stores and advertising space and that's a big a big thing and I think here's the key statement Stone says that they want to participate and invest in members but provide minimal stipulate. To them from a financial That's the real key minimal stipulation they want to operate as they are for the most part and then they you know they're just they're investing and then I'm sure they do some due diligence
and they invest in the ones they think are good and to me it seems like stone is a pretty good idea of what good beer is and what isn't. So I could go on this is obviously how Stone grows too because Stone is huge. Now I mean they're huge in
California. They're huge in the U.S. They buy up the stakes in little you know their breweries I mean that's their their growth method without them selling out themselves. Yeah it's true. I mean to be interesting to see when they start going down the list what those to peel Asians are and whether or not they're organizations who choose to involve themselves in true craft which is what they're calling it. If they really feel like they have the freedom to act and produce the products and the beers that they
choose and kind of go with the creativity they want without stone giving him any kind of strong arm. You know approach you know investment. Well not so what's interesting is that you know the hundred millions brought for through an investor a minute to a long term model but at the end of the day like you know we hear all the time you know you have to shareholder value stakeholder value like. So at some point the people giving you the money do you have somewhat of a say in how you run your business through I see a lot of a little negativity online about this thing they they say Well how's a city different than you know stone so big it's a slogan been coming in and buying up breweries whatever but I mean Stone has always been a pretty reputable honest company to me like just going to their tap room. They actually have beers. They have more beers than stone beers like they have half stone beers and have beers from other breweries that they like in their tap room at their brewery and I've never seen that anywhere. Every other. I go to the some will have guest taps like Eagle Rock or collaboration. But you go to Syria that it's all Sierra Nevada beer you go to LA getting this it's all logged it was going to stone. They have kneedeep
there. They have a bunch of stuff there. So that's that's the number one thing that surprised me about going to the Stone Brewery was that I just thought they would for sure. Only have stone beers and when I saw all these other bears I was shocked.
Especially considering how many beers stone creates I mean they could fill up every tap with stone beers. Oh yeah but I just get the impression that they're about the craft beer community and this is this crap true Kraft thing is just another example
of a way that they're trying to help help the industry and of course there is an advantage for them as well as don't want to send us all their beers will drink them all. Yes OK last article this relates directly to the the podcast tonight. All right so Thursday was National i P A day. Did you guys celebrate with this that I celebrate that every day. Nice So with that there are eight essential L.A. beers that you need to try. You know they are this is an article The L.A. Times put out on international I.P.A. Day I bit one of them Eagle Rock thing about yeah Eagle Rock populous is on the list. There's also another that we have already had tonight. That is on this list expatriate Yep three Weavers very good. Also on the list Beechwood barbecue and brewing any and all of them else the gun show may bury I.P.A. we have it also good on the show tonight we were there on Sunday and we have between but if you're on the show and each was next Highland Park is a cool place not very far from where I live I don't think that bottle anything but Dallas and I went there like we've been to every L.A. per. And if you go to Beachwood barbecue. Yes And so I make a comment here. We went there and they had four different I.P.S. They had the mill rose which were doing next. They had several others. I can't member the names of them but I had all four of them and each one. They brought it out and it seemed like it was the same exact beer that I don't understand. Like I think they they have one line in the goes to the four taps right. And so the fact that this article says Beechwood barbecue and group any I.P.A. from them. It is because they're all the same it is the list one because they're also similar but they're good but I thought I found that amusing too that was the comment I made at the brewery in Andy's favorite beer right now. Was on their Claremont's Jacaranda raw A.P.I. Oh yeah yeah well to get rid and bringing up the rear. Yes monk's the brewing hop tonic and monkish T.B.D. I.P.A. interesting interesting that monkish is on there for a place that makes Belgian style beers. It's also interesting that on the podcast tonight we have monkish Eagle Rock three Weavers Beechwood Clermont and also you know which don't cover their almost every time but seven out of the eight seven out of the eight on the list pretty good. Yeah OK well let's get into the next beer mill Rose I.P.A.. From Beechwood barbecue in brew in Long Beach seven point two percent. I want to go to Beachwood barbecue just the name of the place where do they serve argue their you have a stupid question. They serve to each with their so this is pretty fresh We got this beer. I don't think I don't remember having this at the brewery. I had I'm not sure. Yes we had all four. But we've been holding on to this one. I mean I don't I don't mean that like a long time but we've had it for about a month and a half which is kind of sad because I got. Three days after it was bottled and it's been sitting there for a
month and a half but this is the beer I've been most looking forward to tonight. So it is another light copper colored beer. Very little carbonation floating up a thin half a finger of WHITEHEAD I got a pretty decent on the head of mine and it's dissipating pretty quickly but it was pretty frothy and that it's a little cloudier than most IP is yes it's it's quite cloudy or than the previous beers we've had like honey I get a sweetness from it as well. Yeah it's got a taffy smell not like. Not like a lot of honey water taffy like you know like us trigger candy arm allies a little bit a little bit of butter in there as a smooth mouth feel to it that is my style of beer. It is I mean it's quite a bit darker more bread. Yeah you know it's not
very sweet at all. There's some bitterness and some I guess I call it dark right characteristics where it's not where these other beers were like Hops fruity hops tropical hops. This doesn't have that it's more a little more bitter. I also feel that seven point two like they're hiding the alcohol pretty well I would think that not your bro dog in the expatriate tasted more boozy than agreed. And they say it's chalked pool of sticky hop resins man. I don't know. They're Simcoe and Emeril of right is in there it's the buttery feel to this beer that I think brings it home. There's somehow they're allowing them the resonance to stay on your tongue for a long time and it's just a really good mouthfeel it's very rare that I have a beer then like it's so good. Just because of its mouth feel. I don't know if I've ever agreed with Joel more than that statement right there because for me the number one characteristic I get from the spirit is it's like that. I don't miss a carbonation or but it's definitely the how it's kind of powdery mouthfeel and the texture kind of buttery silky smooth. That's what makes this beer. It reminds me a bit of when we had the Claremont single I.P.A. it's that same like texture that I really look for an I.P.A. This is excellent and I love that Joel said buttery in his description of both the smell and the taste is that really nails it and it has it's almost like a butterscotch or cream soda to me feel it. It's just it's kind of this is where does drinking beer like it brings you back to your childhood and like a cream soda. You know it's very enjoyable. We've had three I.P.A. So far I find it interesting that they have each been I won't say radically but substantially different. Yes they have different qualities on each one especially this one is way different than the first two. Oh yeah three I.P.A. down and we have three more to go after our Strange Brew we have a peach Berliner vice from the dude's brewery in Torrance and we will get to that
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Yeah you know a little four point five percent in a typical for a Berliner Weisse yet three times more head than beer at Peach Malcolm superstrong it's kind of a light straw color very cloudy slight carbonation there you thick head. Yeah I have about a six finger head and six fingers of head big bubbles who's pouring your beer because we have like no head and it rhymes with Cole and he thing to my right. Even if I try to pour it like an extra head it's not happening and it's a glass. I mean there's I.P.A. glasses lend more and more head Naturally we were up these beers with our paint mixer. So this was also picked up at the brewery I went here at my own. This is yeah like Dallas said it's also in Torrance this a brewery that I think they only can their beer pretty small place. They have the Bohemian Hop City which I really enjoy is one of their I.P.O.'s. And so this is a little bit different. Peach Berliner Weisse should be. Refreshing summer beer I'm guessing they definitely took handfuls of petering candies and threw it into the vet. Absolutely. But I think the. Tang me Peachey smell so to me it's like peach. There's a very slight like smoky or tobacco peach what I think Joe is on the money with the picturing candies. I think it's like candy but just like peachy juice is taste like fruit juice like if you if somebody told me there was no alcohol and here I might believe it now it has a little bit of like a a grapefruit sour quality or how it like deadens the tongue like right in the middle kind of an odd sensation. It hit me right. My Muller's there's like a bitterness to this you smell it. It smells like it's wheat peach but then when you take a sip of it. It's actually like more traditional peach like a little more bitter it's more like a peach that you had cut into any take a bite of and you get that the rind around the outside a little bit. It's not like canned peaches that are super sweet. It's like a fresh piece no syrup quality to it. The peach meant was was the smell of the beer but that does not come through in the taste at all. So this is the first beer that I think I've ever had read like oh man this would be really good to mix with Baka might be the first time that has ever happened because I feel like I've been searching for that experience I just I just found it. I think it's a little sweet Not really but it's a little tart definitely lots of peach flavors. But like reality it's not like candy peach or even canned peaches almost not a beer. It's like a malt beverage or something. Yeah. The thing that I'm actually thinking and I don't know if it's this because I was expecting so much from the smell but it's a little bit watery Well it's foreign. Percent. I mean it was a Bud Light. Yeah I mean this is the body of a Bud Light I mean you don't you don't drink a Bud Light or course let it go. I was so full. You know drinking a beer. Here you know you're drinking it because it's crisp and refreshing and light and that's what this is it's good. Yeah hot day at the pool drink ten or eleven of these feeling like if you saw someone doing a keg stand it. This would be like a hot girl or for me the opposite of a hot girl I do get that that for celebration effect there that Britain was talking about right in the molars Yeah a little Yeah yeah. Q Yeah it gets. Yeah it's similar to if you eat like a atomic warheads or something and you. Yeah. So it's just a strange brew like we chose this is the strangest beer but it's I've never I don't know if I've had a really a peach beer before that except for that dog fish had one before I mean it's the strangest one we could find it's interesting I mean it's not too often you get a peach flavored beer. That's true it's a stranger to me just in terms of the whole I mean I think that I'd be able to pick this out of any lineup that you could. Oh yeah to me it's different than any other beer I've had so yeah yeah definitely strange brew or yes expected to be a little bit sweeter. I was but something Romeo. Yeah I'm thankful that it's not that sweet based off the euro. I was expecting it to pack a lot more like peach punch in that's what I think I'm going with trying to describe it as watery it's just not as concentrated flavor is I thought it would be based on this. Well not that that's a bad thing but I just feel like you're only as a lot more than the flavor. I think Dallas said it. Taney I think it's to me it is. I just think it is part the one thing I have a problem with is brew. Is is if someone said to me Oh this is a. This is a peach champagne and I go yeah I really like it but yeah it's a peach champagne like you're going to bully me. Yeah. Oh no that's a beer. Oh I do without with that same carbonation quality though but yeah I mean Labor profile was I think I could tell it's a beer. I think it sets you up because you smell the sweetness coming into it and then you separate it goes into the Tang you profile but definitely thought your senses a curveball agreed. It's strange or let's transition back into the I.P.A. and help us out here by choosing the great fruit double I.P.A. from Clermont craft ales next. So kind of the citrus going from peach to grapefruit and we'll work our way into some heavier I.P.A. is now. Now Jeff and Lance don't have the grape or I.P.A. they have the the double I.P.A. from Claremont which is just I think it's the same beer is this just well without the grapefruit So they're going to have the same percentage eight point five percent. Joel is poor in the beers here. I want us around the great foods before definitely out there you know this is a very popular beer for them. We've been declared many times and quite often they're sold out of it. So we were lucky to get this one bottle it pour we lighter than I thought it would I don't know why like we bought the brewery and they you know Claremont's distribution is picked up around L.A. County but this is one that I'm pretty sure they only have at the brewery we got it last time where they're. I've had it before but we don't have it because I don't have any in stock but we have the double double I.P.A. instead in
stock so hard so ours is like a golden little bit of cloudy. Color to it it's lighter than I thought it was going to be for a double I.P.A. usually you know if brewers use any kind of there's any dark malts and they're going to get a darker color because of all the multitude in there but these are obviously light bulbs are using to get that eight point five percent alcohol content but Geoff is yours also that golden light color with a slight haze. Yeah it is. Yeah very similar to ours Yeah slightly hazy but once again I golden light amber color. Exactly. Yeah yeah. Does it have any amber to it though this is a little darker than ours. I mean its smells like great food it's not like Oh it smells like grapefruit and this you know it just
smells like I was just going to say that I think it smells a little bit like fruit. Maybe a little minute I get a little like soapy characters and I could see that they do get in like double I.P.A. is quite often. Now the great brew I.P.A. is something that a lot of people are doing now obviously sculpin is the big heavy hitter in this category. We did one from our trip to St Louis flea's grapefruit I.P.A. which was a very light or subtle grapefruit. This is a little heavier on the grapefruit flavor. Do you guys get like the natural great fruit flavors in that beer which the Schlafly one had and I think the Claremont one has but some of these other ones have a sort of like chemical E. great fruit taste but I think this one has a natural a great fruit taste. I was going to say for example the rogue main go astronaut is more artificial versus like the latitude thirty three the blood orange it's more of a natural but orange flavor in there. Yeah I mean I don't eat a lot of great fruit Steve does my fair share and this taste chemically to me this doesn't taste natural in my opinion but I'm also getting so much up that it's just like it doesn't taste. Grapefruit to me. I see that the grapefruit is in the double I.P.A. but I it overwhelms me. That's what I was going to say is that I don't necessarily characterize this as grapefruit. And I think it's more because in general I don't like IP is that much. So I don't drink a very often so I tend to associate any type of like citrus hops with I.P.A. and so for me like. I don't pick the great threw out of this it's just like citrus the hop to me I do pick the grapefruit out and I think it pears so well with that citrus taste and then the grapefruit as well. Mixed in there. It's just this citrus explosion and I love it. So normally if Dallas like something any like some things I know any like this beers Well I'm usually going to like it. I do not like his beer which shocks me because I was really looking for this beer and the reason why I don't like it is cuz the bitterness of the hops is so intense and I feel like I'm eating a great fruit Rhein not the actual fruit and flesh of the fruit. I feel like I'm tasting just the Rhine. And I don't like the way it taste because it reminds me a little bit of bile. And that's just a hint of it and like I said it's just my preference for his beer. I do think that it. They're doing what they're saying they're doing they're creating a double I.P.A. great fruit but I just don't like
the way they match. All right Jeff talk about yours. A little bit. So we're we're having the double I.P.A. not grapefruit. But our our beer has some great fruit characteristics you know a lot of West Coast style I.P.A. is have a great fruit hop profile. But there's a lot of tropical fruits in a spear also I think there's some citrus you know great for on the finish very dry. I like an I.P.A. that has kind of a dry finish. Really accent the hops. Ours is one hundred plus IB use. But it it does not
taste better at all. It is like the opposite of bitter which a lot of double I.P.S. can be very bitter and I think this is a very smooth drinkable double I.P.A. so. I enjoy it. I think it's I think it's a solid beer and it's a follow up to what he
was saying I was looking down at my sheet and I see that as eight point five percent. I can't believe it. It's it's very smooth and drink a bowl for such a high A.B.V. it really is. Yeah I thought the same thing about the grapefruit one. Although it was very sour grape root bitter grapefruit forward bitter hop forward. I wasn't getting much alcohol coming through even though this is the highest alcohol we've had on the show so far. So interesting to kind of compare and contrast the two double I.P.A. is from Claremont incoming transmission. You've got mail. Comments this week on the website for the day dot com We have several comments one from a new user on our previous podcast exploring the vault M Conor six six six from Grain Valley Missouri. Thanks for the roundabout shout out on the episode. I'm the one who bought the game of thrones soundtracks. I hope it was enough to buy at least a cheap single twelve ounce beer. Well I think it's definitely enough to cover the costs that he but I think for five seasons of the soundtrack so that does add up. But whenever he spends it everyone else spends it all goes into the one big pot and then that's up in the it's enough for us to I'd say pay for one podcast a month. Well half of one. You
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them right on the beer of the Day website under the beer of the day at the or below the podcast or the comments section. You can post them on Facebook facebook dot com slash the beer of the day on Twitter at beer of the day and on Instagram at beer the day site. Are those going into the next beer. We're moving into so more double I.P.A. as. This is from Elsa Goudeau Brewing Company. Elsa good to California I was there on Sunday. This is the hammer land double I.P.A. eight point six percent. It just edged out Clermont by a tenth of a percent. Did you have this beer when you were there. I don't believe it. You did not. It was a test. I had several other eyepiece from that. They had about six I think these guys are must be the big I.P.A. heavy hitters of Los Angeles. But they took pride in every single one of their I.P.A. as this place was fun. It was packed a lot of Dodgers fans but it's L.A. So what do you expect it's an L.A. beer show L.A. beer show Dodgers fans so many beers. They had what twenty beers on the menu. You know try I want to try as many as I could but I could only try five because we had a plane to catch. I mean Dallas is right this is the de appeared to me of I.P.A. a central for L.A. you know breweries the place
makes eight or nine I.P.S. at least we had a whole bunch of every time where they have a different one. If you like L.A. beers and you like I.P.A. as this is a place to go and they also have broken school I.P.A. which is the one that was brewed in
collaboration with Steve Austin cold. Yeah. And we'd featured that on the beer the day website and Steve Austin Reed tweeted us that day and he had something like two hundred thousand followers. So it was the biggest day we've ever had on beer of the day Twitter for sure. Steve Austin if you're you know if you're listening right now. Thank you. Would have made more sense for him to collaborate. If he does well and disappear. Here is crystal clear in its refusal I mean yeah because stones are double They could have saved money by just calling it cold I.P.A. anyway so as the. Head is dissipating. It leaves a film on the glass so that means big time lacing it is very clear like the expatriate but less carbonation British shaking her head. Oh was that not better in the taste like a West Coast double life face like these still again I think I think the aroma is very dangerous like I think I'm guessing there's mosaic cops in here yet. It's very fresh flavors in the I mean it's not a flavor is
the scent and the aroma is very dainty there's a mosaic and Simcoe all say this that even though I don't enjoy the beer last week on last week's episode we talked about in the news article the labeling and the names of beers is a great label but also ignorant I like the everything on its stands out to me I would buy it in the store just if I saw that are you thinking like for branding perspective like just OK. I mean there's I work and live there are some freedom aspect also good. No there's like
a surfboard they have mounted on their wall a huge huge one. So I see a surfer on the label here. I don't know the significance of him or land and this beer is pretty darn fresh meanest beer is ten days old. Basically I mean I just bought a seven twenty two. So it's only you know thirteen days old. Yeah which means it was a week old when I brought it home. Yeah. I do like this beer. It does have a lot of hops flavors and it's kind of the hot flavors a hit the back of your throat and kind of grab onto your like your tonsils. You got to be wanting that kind of happiness to it but I think it's got a good amount of sugar where it's not too sweet. Eight point five percent you're going to a little bit of sweetness and there's a little sweetness
there. Yeah but it's it's pleasant I mean. It's a good tasting beer it's about full and those mosaic and Simcoe hops come in strong it does going strong. But it's not overly bitter it's I mean I think just the combination of those hops actually leads to a little bit of a sweetness on the aftertaste. It's not super bitter on the aftertaste or some of these double I.P.A. is can get really better now. It's definitely better up front and there's an underlying theme throughout that. Applying in these thirds the pool. The more I think that the more I like it like the first step was overly happy overly better even I really going at each other like yeah. All I get. But the more I drink it the more I appreciating some of the underlying characteristics of this. Jeff you're like laughing and having things going on there. What's going to well I agree with all of you guys and I've had the spear several times. And I think of this beer as very harpy up front like there's some great like copy on the back and this is very happy up front with like great fruit little pints of resin but then it gets a little sweet and malty but it's actually like a little boozy boozy or than most double I.P.A. and I get a little alcohol kick from this but I really enjoy like the long bitter finish. And if you know if you want to strong this is pretty strong beer if you want to strong west coast I.P.A. this is this is it this is like that. You know the great fruit little bit of malts but really just like a long strong bitter finish. Well I think it's funny because you said the same thing that I experience right taste it. It goes bitterness it stops and it goes to sweetness and then it goes to bitterness again a long lasting flavor it's like three steps it's bitterness weakness. Sorry hopping this bitterness. Sorry. Bina sweetness bitterness quit being the table. Yeah this is this is delicious. I mean this is what they're known for these are their IP is a double I.P.A. I mean this is this is hops to the extreme. What is it eight point six percent. Yeah eight eighty five abuse is that all. That's what you think I think the. The resin like coating that it adds or art has allows you to really experience it for a more prolonged or provides for more prolonged experience I would say. So that's how you can get the different plate later profiles all the way through the drink. I agree it does coat the tongue and it does linger on the tongue for longer. So there is like different phases of the beer. Great fruit and I am not really getting grapefruit. It tastes like bitter blueberries to me. There's a little bit of a tannic quality Yeah there's a little berry flavors. I mean I get that there's some berries but I think a lot of the citrusy I.P.A. that you know there's sometimes some lemon sometimes an orange. But I just get great for like the bitter sort of tartness in a lot of hops it west coast style I.P.A. tends to be great for me and that's what I get especially at the beginning of the spear. Yeah. Arwa we've got one more beer to go. You can see you know the numbers all go to eleven rock across the boat. He said and most of that and the amps go up to ten exactly does that mean it's louder isn't any louder. Well it's one louder isn't it. It's not ten. You see most like to be playing ten euro ten hero way all the way up. You know the way up. You don't tell your kids how well can you go from that. Well. I don't know what exactly we do if we need that extra push of the cliff. You know we do put up with that in exactly one I want to just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder. He's going to eleven. Well crap. This one goes to eleven two this is what Mother triple I.P.A. eleven point two percent
eleven point zero zero. Well sugar action like. That so you'll have to click it right and I think you just blew everything up one goes to eleven eleven point two from Golden Road Brewing Company in this is like saying guess what biggest L.A. brewery. It is by far and you can get these beers all the way up in Sacramento and they sold out to you so I'll be honest at the in the show. I'm nervous about having an eleven point two percent beer. Why that's a lot of alcohol or a look. Poured lightly.
You look at that ad so we talk about all the road before. None of us love their beers but they have the best brewery overall in L.A. like the experience of going there. The best Beyond's. You go hang out for the day watch football. It's a great place to hang out. I just wish the bears were a little bit better because off the plate and not run drink your beer. It's right. So this smells like a barley wine to be the that is the best smelling you're the one. Yeah I couldn't place what it smells like but I just thought that I really liked it. I agree. It smells good like golden color dark yellow color. I can't see any carbonation floating up it's quite cloudy and the head is one finger of white head medium bubbles pretty good lacing it looks a
lot like some like NE style I.P.A. is the cloudiness the haziness and looks like that. It'll be interesting to see how this tastes Lance's face looks like you just took a shot of one fifty one triple I.P.A. as you end up getting more multi notice more sweetness because that's higher alcohol less carbonation reminds me. You know when once you start getting into eleven percent. You're going into that in the higher range where even the hops aren't as prevalent yet because you have the sweetness of them all so I haven't taken a taste of Scipio you know you know that that's exactly what's happening here with the spear. It is a little bit thicker and more viscous and more seriously than any other beers we've had tonight. Well Joel you know this like as a home brewer if you were to make a triple I.P.A. I feel like you have to bump up the malts big time to get that sugar content to get the alcohol. Yeah I mean can you make. How do you even make a beer like this. I mean you just you're using so many balls I mean you're adding a ton of different balls and you're trying to have a malt profile that's not overpowering all the hops that you have I mean you can put in so much Malta where it just becomes sugar basically that you're tasting. So you're trying to balance like a bunch of different models that aren't adding a ton of sugar flavor but you're also trying to balance it with some pretty good hops. That you have like something that's like a joy bull and use is unique. I do have a question how much is this beer because it's nineteen point two fluid ounces. Eleven point two percent. I mean if I was like like a bomb on the street. And I want to get toasted. This is a good go to but I'm just curious what you how much did it cost. Yeah I
don't know. Please tell me it's more than five dollars probably yeah yeah but if it's like seven bucks that's good. Like waste the price ratio. Yeah but if you're if you're the five to seven range. Yeah and you drink eleven point two percent you're
drinking one thousand point two fluid ounces. Can you have a good time for one or two of these. You already get this. Well you just go to still reserve it would be a triple I.P.A. I think that this beer is far more altie than I was expecting it to be and it makes sense for what the A.B.V. is but I wasn't expecting that I think I'm just overwhelmed by every flavor. It's a ton of malts it's a ton of hops it's bitter. It's like it's it's a strong beer but everything. I mean it's a triple I.P.A. I expect reply peace be strong but I mean this is he kicks you in the face. B I think it kicks you in the face less of them than not your bro dog kicked me in the face you know that was I thought that was pretty drink of all this is this is strong on
the alcohol super multi so it would be better to enjoy this beer in the wintertime. It's boozy Yeah let's talk about the hops so is it like some kind hops you know hops to get grass I get a little earthy you're not getting a lot of tropic though that's for sure you're getting you know it's not the floral it and I'm serious. Yeah. But it is like when Jeff until we're talking about the brewing process. I mean what you're describing in bring a beer. Like this is exactly what's happening. I mean it's much more sugary sweet. I think that the hops that are in this are being kind of overwhelmed in this beer. I don't get a strong flavor. I get a. Sweet. You can really it's not very boozy to me for the alcohol content. I mean it's there's bruising isn't there because it's eleven percent but it just tastes sweet to me and sweet and salty that lingering taste is very sweet. Yeah it's very present. So today. Lance and I had. The wolf pup. Which This is the Wolfmother the wolf pup is there session I.P.A.. And it had a similar taste but like a third of the alcohol and this is just to the extreme. I mean not not every place makes a triple I.P.A. these are pretty rare and we when we had a triple I.P.A. show it's tough to get very many beers for
that show but you know I applaud them for trying this. It's it's OK it's drinkable Yeah but if you say give me Sim true or give me this sim triads eleven point two five percent same alcohol completely different beer but even like the founders deviled answer that we had is maybe the boozy spear I've had in a while. It's stronger than this but it's more annoying actually comes out even more in that beer. It's like a little bit dark and it was a very good beer as well. This is social got to in the fridge so syrupy and I feel like I could put on pancakes. Yeah. Now this is pretty I'm just going to use regular maple syrup definitely not a clean finish. Unless you're drunk or you're going to do that I would certainly this like that. OK Well I think we describe that one. Let's recap the beers we've had then we'll pick our favorite beer the day Britain you want to take us through though we started off with the haiku this these on from monkish then we went into the not your bro dog I.P.A. from
Eagle Rock brewery terrible name. I mean we've been to the expatriate I.P.A. from three Weavers Brewing Company and on to the Melrose I.P.A. from. Would barbecue and brew or Strange Brew was the peach Berliner vice from the dudes Brewing Company. We also had the great fruit double I.P.A. from Claremont craft ales Jeff in the Lance had the double dude double I.P.A. from Claremont and then we also had the hammer land double I.P.A. from El Segundo and we thinnish the night off with Wall from other
triple I.P.A. from Golden Road brewing. All right Steve going to spin the wheel and we'll figure out who's going to pick first tonight. Thank you. Round it round to go where it stops. Some people know Britain already so my beer of the day. Surprisingly enough is going to be the Melrose I.P.A. from Peach would barbecue and brew. I am an I.P.A. I say this. While it's an I.P.A. shows I'm limited but I don't like a piece that much I say that all the time but I felt like this one was one that I could drink like everyone else said the mouthfeel really made that beer. I felt like it was really balance. And for an I.P.A. It was definitely a drink a bowl for someone like me who hates it. I will say that I liked the peach the strange brew day the peach. I really liked that beer wasn't expecting that was going to be that good but the beer of the day today is hands down. No doubt it's Melrose I.P.A. the Beechwood barbecue is three levels above anything else we had on the show. It's a beer that I would pick on probably many other party S. are done. As the beer the day. Very well crafted beer. If you have friend that doesn't like I.P.A. is like Britain and I and you want to try and introduce them and get acquainted. I haven't tried that beer it's hard not to like I Very good. My favorite beer of the. Not my favorite beer name of the day but my favorite beer of the day was the not your bro dog I.P.A. this beer has a lot of the qualities I like in it has the caramel malt base with the tropical north western hop flavor the tropical passion fruit type of hops which I really like so that beer reminded me of like a Top Cutter in a lot of these Oregonian beers that we've had in the past and so that's my favorite beer of the day. Geoffrey I will
have to concur with Brett and Steve the Melrose I.P.A. was hands down my favorite beer the day I like the expatriate I like the double dude I'm sorry the Claremont double I.P.A. but the Millers I.P.A. was just above the rest I think it was the mouth feel the carbonation the texture the buttery characteristic as Joel said that. Beer had the best flavor that was the beer that every If I had to drink a beer every single day and that was it. I'd be pretty happy. So you know it's pretty obvious to me. Melrose I.P.A. is my pick for the beer of the day but it's lot of good things said about the Melrose I.P.A. and I agree that the buttery nature of the mouth feel like dipping crab legs in the butter. I mean that coating in your mouth is great.
However I have to give credit to the double I.P.A. for Clermont that's going to be my beer of the day. Eight point five percent can tell you very smooth very drink a bowl for that level of A.B.B. good notes all the way through love the profile of the beer. I have to go with the double I.P.A. from Clermont Joe. So for me the Melrose I.P.A. is something that I like really looking forward to share with people that the Simcoe in Amarillo as well as that. Feel you just can't be it was so like amazingly crafted. That's got to be my beer the day. Excellent. Are they going to close out our L.A. show. We thank you for tuning in and we'll be back in two weeks with a new program. I don't know what them pop it's going to be but we're going to figure it
out in the meantime can it be stout Yes I think we've been kind of I.P.A. centric lately so we'll change that. We'll do some styles or some porters with something. Yeah Jeff. That's fine. It's been so hot. Like I want to stay outside the wintertime. Yeah greed Weiner we currently have nine thousand nine hundred and nine likes on Facebook. So we are rapidly approaching ten thousand people like the number ten thousand is going to get a fear they might last mail to them. So our post and maybe one of your friends will be the one that likes us to get that high class so like us on Facebook facebook dot com slash fever they follow us on Twitter at beer the day and Jeff post the photo on Instagram every single day at Pier the day site will see you
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