Beer of the Day Podcast - The Haze Craze of the IPA - January 5th, 2017

This is the Beer of the day Podcast. From Beer of the Day Studios in Pasadena, California, this is the Beer of the Day Pocast. We got to be a show for you tonight and only have one. PELAYO but we have three I.D.'s for double I.P.A. just try it. We have it traded from breweries all around the country legend Hugo have boxes of beer ship it into California every week and we have so much beer to try we don't even know what to do with it. So we're going to try to today here on the pier that I pod cast. I'm Dallas Heliker, joining me tonight, Lance Burks, Hugo Padilla, Kevin Seavers, and, as always. Jeff Miller. Hello gentlemen. Oh man. All these beers that you can't get in California. I don't know what to do with myself look

so good as I really don't happen to be here. Good good good. Hello hello hello. I had a Bierria Yeah you guys ready for your first beer of the night. I think let's do it quickly. Actually we've had plenty beers and I the first beer that were recorded and that's get that straight right now everyone's going to know anyway. First through the night we have a collaboration between tired. And then he'll farmstead Exactly. It's called the copy and paste pale ale. I'm guessing that tired hands is an

artist more Pennsylvania correct and Hill farmstead obviously we've been to in Vermont and fact we ended up getting this from one of the people we met out in the Vermont trip that hill harvested Yeah that hill farm said. You know I think this is going to be kind of a theme tonight but this is a pretty hazy colored light yellowish orange color. I mean it's pretty light colored but very hazy I mean you cannot see through this beer. No it's very hazy it's about the color of them the most you know it's not quite as dark as orange juice but if you put a little champagne in there that's what this looks like. Yes So this is the only Pale Ale five point eight percent. I get a very fresh copy smell kind of tropical orange ish citrus see whop aroma you get a lot of great fruit in the hops and grapefruit for sure it's really smooth. I mean this is when you talk about a juicy I.P.A. this is it right here. I mean this is juicy it's a little sour how little acidic how some like orange juice or lemon can have that acidic flavor to it but this is just a lot of citrus flavor not very sweet Slade but a lingering stays with you for a minute. Like lingering bitterness or lingering sour it is sort of tartness I would say tartness and when I would say bitterness but I say more tartness is it's not super bitter which is the case with a lot of NE I.P.S. you don't have that bitter profile that you get with the West Coast but. Definitely. This has the great fruit pit the newness and the bitterness from that that has the little bit the sour in assistance on the tongue. I think you're right that the path from the great fruit really stand. Is out. Is this one a parallel or is an I.P.A.. It's pale ale. OK. The only one tonight. And so tired hands in Ardmore Pennsylvania. You know different states but geographically pretty close here. It's good we're going to start off with this collaboration we have another collaboration later. This is this is an interesting beer. You know it's something that I noticed it. It's a pale ale but it has a pretty full body for a pale ale with the alcohol in this five point eight. Wow. Not much multi ness that I mean this is this is hops I mean I get obviously there's some malts in here but I do not detect much

taste true definitely has a presence. Well if I had a choice. This would be my favorite beer of the night so far. All right well before we get to the next period it won't have any beers this week they wanted to mention that stood out to them. I had one that I was going to talk about a couple of us here. We actually went to Elsa go and so Brewing Company recently in El Segundo California. It's a suburb of L.A. and we were you know there really known for their I.P.A. Zz and I'm not going to talk about that right now because we had their standard crude the two thousand and sixteen version. The first time they've barrel age this beer and what was really interesting at the brewery we tried this side by side with the two thousand and fourteen version and the two thousand and fourteen version was not barrel aged but it was super smooth but it was really interesting to try these two side by side. We bought a case of this. I want to try to age it have it on a future. You know podcast but it's one of those beers that. You know we bought twelve of them. So hopefully we can hold on to a few for a couple years just delicious. You know Bourbon barrel age Imperial Stout everything you're looking for in an Imperial Stout And so we were able to try that and it was just an excellent. And if I'm not mistaken I think they would for reserve which just happens to be my favorite bourbon. I think you're right. Hard to go wrong there are let's move into the next beer. We have from treehouse brewing. This is the Julie as it comes in an orange cam six point eight percent there from Monson Massachusetts. Yeah. Jeffery wrote the agenda hand written so. If I mispronounced anything. We're blaming him. We're old school here I don't have a printer. I had a printer and probably ten years so I think coming out of the East Coast. Other than hell Utah for when you talk to the traders out there. This is probably one of the most notoriety with the most trade value. Julius is top of the mark. Especially when he gets released it seems like there's a lot of conversation about it and everybody's looking to get their hands on it. So this is something pretty special that we were able to get for the podcast or so the copy and paste was more of an orange color this one actually borders more on copper colored even though it is the same cloudy type of characteristic. And a very thin white had just kind of a film on the top of the couple of big bubbles that limb linger on there. You know this is I think

significantly darker in color and it's not like a dark beer but compared to a lot of the Northeast style I.P.A.. This is a much darker orange color. I think of all the but of all the beers that we have lined up today this is the one that I anticipate the most just as the most beam out of any of the beers and so I'm hoping to really like this it's good. I mean first I enjoy that sometimes I have two or three sets but this is really tasty that fruit is really coming through for me not in a in a sweet manner but it's it's definitely well balanced and. Blends in with the rest of the profile. It's just fantastic. Yeah I mean my only other treehouse I've had a couple treehouse beers but the one I like best is doppelganger and this is pretty on par with that both are excellent. I think what I like about this is there's there's definitely some citrus there's some other fruits like tropical fruit which you know a little bit of tropical fruit a passion fruit maybe something tropical I always get kind of a melon flavor to it. Not sure if that's what's coming out of this but it's a lot sweeter than a dissipated. I get the melon. But like overly sweet. Oh not not overly sweet just more than I thought it was going to be it is pretty sweet but it's

not too sweet at the same time it's multi But it's not heavy. I can't get my my finger on it but it's very good. I mean it is very good. It's it's kind of a juice bar I mean you hear that with these North East type of I.P.A. Zz and this is kind of the what you expect where it's so juicy and fruity and flavorful very little bitterness little bit higher sugar than you would normally be for this style of beer. But at six point eight percent. It's so drinkable It's pretty amazing. So I've heard people will line up for the treehouse releases and those lines will be ten hours plus to get that. Yeah. Would you guys line up and put that much time in for this beer. Personally I don't I would not for any beer. Tell you what you can sit in line for ten hours to get a beer or you can go back to your house and drink beer for ten hours and I'll tell you who will be having a better time you know that you know that ten hours. I agree I mean there's this is a really excellent beer but there's a lot of very good beers out there and I'm not going to wait in line for ten hours for any beer which I I'm glad somebody else waited in line for this. And traded with us. That's the whole theme of the show so you know we look like we got the better deal. It seems like a recurring theme with popular beer in this day and age is this waiting in line thing. It's like an artificial hype that breweries create to try to it's like a self-perpetuating thing where people have to wait in line. So it creates hype so where people wait in line and up. I don't know. I would rather they just put out the beer and people can buy it when they can get it and you know get it done. I don't really understand the reason I mean I'm sure there's a marketing reason and a popularity reason why that had these special releases and people way line but I don't know it just seems like a little a little much for me however would you wait two hours out of ten hours two hours I'm fine with this is where I have the level of a relationship with that because I stood in line for at Mumford for about an hour or so hour and a half and I was able to get some beer from there and I was able to use that to trade for this tree house so I trade an hour and a half versus somebody who had an hour's worth the wait. Yeah. True. And what about. I mean you know Hugo you've been getting some monkish beers for us. Monkish you know several of us are in the L.A. area. Monkish is really popular right now and they're making a lot of NE style I.P.A. is and they have the same issue that they have these releases and I guess you know it's a good problem for them but there's people that line up for. For hours to get the these monkey Spears I mean I mean you've done it several times. What's

kind of been your experience at monkish. What I think is funny is just seeing the comments from a lot of people with the. Cutting in line or where they say they're going to where the brewery says they're going to give out a certain amount and then they give up more than they're trying to be comedy the crowd and I think they're. Thank you. They're going to give you do the people favor and give them more than what they said they were going to give out initially but then the people that show up later just upset. So I don't necessarily know they does all that much for the reputation of the brewery. But I think it's just a little bit of a fun time I get to go out there and meet other people in the beer can. Beer love community. Well the they get to express what they're looking forward to. Wouldn't it. To be other people to trade with so it's pretty serious business though I mean people are they planning their entire day around this release. So when they say they're going to release it at twelve. You know you're going to get there. Two hours beforehand. And by the time you get up to to make your purchase they don't have it. I think it just trying to highlight your point of breweries when they they don't kind of stick to their word or their distribution plant and was a release plan. And once was like the release of a no new i Phone and these new breweries drop and you know you know there's a few breweries that now just go straight to electronic method I know a modern time lot of times

does that and bottle logic in Anaheim they do that. So there's different ways to do it but go back to Julius I mean we can all agree this is a great beer glad none of us wait in line for it but this is really tasty and I've been looking forward to

this for a long time and. I mean this is spot on delicious. It was definitely difficult to get I mean we traded with somebody who actually had to trade with their trader to get that. So it went through multiple hands for to end up here. No tired hands. You need an ounce of our own is going to be weird. Movements of the day you're going to are don't know if you guys have realised that this but we. Have reached a milestone in the craft beer community here in the in the United States we have surpassed the five thousand brewery mark as of the end of November we had five thousand and five breweries in this country and it's crazy it's the most ever before. Prohibit So the previous count one year ago we had four thousand one hundred thirty one breweries So that's about nine hundred in the last year and twenty percent. YEAH RIGHT HERE ago we had surpassed the the previous high from eight hundred seventy three before Prohibition. But it's pretty crazy. We had just fifteen hundred breweries in

two thousand and eight and you know just a few a few less than a decade later we are way way past that. So it kind of moves in the next story about changing trends in the beer market. So it seems like when we first started drinking craft beer. There was the West Coast I.P.A. phenomenon and as time went on. Everything got hop you're right they had seen about a pale ale and we drank that and then we had this brewery in Southern California called Stone coming up with their I.P.A. and their ruination and then green flash and their I.P.A. and double I.P.A. and over time we started getting hop ear and hop here and everyone was trying to outdo everybody else with the the bitterness right. It was all about bitterness. You wanted to get more bitter than the next guy and the I.V. use went way up up and up and up. And it was a constant competition and it seems at some point we hit a wall where you couldn't get more bitter and. To be enjoyable and so these hop heads like myself were. You know hanging in there and trying all these poppy beers and then all of a sudden now we have a new phase in beer and it just so happens that we went to Vermont in October a couple months ago and tried all these northeast I.P.S. and now in California it's all the rage all the the popular California beers for monkish in Northern California we have tracked seven. We have the work field work in Berkeley the one in Auburn Moonraker and so there's all these northeast tile I.P.A. that are coming out and it's all the rage now and many of the beers we're having on the show tonight which are some of the most sought after beers in the country are these Norse North East style I.P.A. cloudy. Juicy not bitter more fruity and so we're seeing these these changes in beer. It's very interesting to see just in last year how the styles have changed. I mean I think you bring up a lot of good ideas a couple different points and there's definitely. This you know hype around these ne I.P.A. is kind of all the rage and it's pretty new to us in California like you said. I'm fine with it. I personally you know still have a love for like the classic West Coast I.P.A.. Crystal clear and you know hazy you know terminus to it but I like having both styles to choose from. Like I would love to go to a brewery where they have both a West Coast style I.P.A. for the true. You know old school I.P.A. fans and then they also make a hazy I.P.A. I like that diversity. I think even. In fieldwork that's a good example fieldwork in Berkeley they have four different hazy ne I.P.A. Zimm him for different incredibly clear. West Coast I.P.S. and you could try both side by side they're all excellent you know very slight differentiations on each style but they're ones that are trying to make the best of both worlds. So here's a question. I know that you're up Belgian specifically we've been taking our cues from them on on creating beer for you know hundreds of years. Have the tables turned where we're now the trendsetters if we are starting. It's hard to say I don't think so. I personally I think so because European style beers haven't really changed all that much and God knows forever. That's good. And in the unit at least here in the United States. It seems like they're

really pushing change and pushing flavors and different techniques and making beer for example you know you guys are talking about the hazy. I mean for example I mean a lot of us home brewers think that the hazy beers the Northeast ips are just laziness. But at the same time it's different and a lot of people like it and it's a new phenomenon and apparently a sale so there's nothing wrong with it. I think that the competition here. The five thousand breweries that is growing exponentially. Since you know over the last ten years or whatever has caused this type of competition where there's all kinds of competing styles and it is a breeding ground for innovation. In Europe. That's not the same thing they've had the same breweries for a long time. I bet they don't have the same kind of explosion that we have here. But then again Jeff and I were there a year ago they thought American beer was Budweiser they didn't know what we were doing here. They have no idea. There's a couple bars that

have some I'm. Breweries a couple a handful green flash I remember. Green Flash was there you know there's like a couple beers they had but for the most part they really were oblivious to what's going on here. So I think that the the the changes which most people say is bad for craft beer which is like it is getting bought out and stone. You know getting to the point where they're so big that they're not really even a craft brewery anymore. It's sounds bad for American beer but it actually

might be better for like the world beer scene in general. Look I think I think there's a time and a place for every type of beer. I think everybody's palate is different and you know most good breweries I mean popular breweries are just the best beer is the most common berries I don't know but most good breweries have a broad spectrum of styles of beers and I go back to my previous point I mean I want to walk into a brewery that has. You know six or eight different styles of beer. I'm an I.P.A. fans

I'd like to see a couple different I.P.O.'s. And I'm all for this. I mean I don't want hazy eyepiece to take over and push out the West Coast. But right now as it stands. I'm good with having sort of both types of people can have their preferences

and I think that's healthy for the you know the craft beer world. I just don't like the buyouts the buyouts aren't cool with me. I mean you have less breweries you can end up with less competition. If left competition. You know it's it tends to lead to less innovation. Yeah and you know having innovation. I mean it was I saw it. So I think that it's something to keep your eye on but I think at this point the number of craft breweries is still going up and it seems to me at least in the last year the number of buyouts has been down. You know like it used to be I was playing another one bites the dust every single show and now I. I can't even find this song on my board. Oh here it is one I don't have to use that anymore. So it's a little bit better. All right let's go to the next beer her. I'm a little thirsty. We have the mutiny. This is from Foley brothers in parade in Vermont. Six point eight percent. I definitely have with this beer when when we did our New England beer to work beer cation. We went to a bar out and when you ski Vermont and Dallas you go. And Jeff sat there and they went they ran the gamut in all the different beers that they had and I decided that I was going to try one beer and when I had that beer. I was going to then have six more of them in a row. So I sat at the bar for two and a half hours while these guys tried everything that they had and I just absolutely fell in love with this beer and we had a really good experience at the bar. I can't say I remember this beer because we had so many great. Beers especially that night at this bar we're sitting there where there's four or five different Hill farmstead beers on top. There's all these great Vermont New Hampshire Maine beers like you know it's

hard to really choose. So what. Yeah we try to all inland stuck with this one so I know Lance has been looking forward to having this in the bottle. And I think you stuck with him through seven of these different books my first one plus six so that gives us seven. So color wise we look at a little bit darker golden color quite quite hazy. I can't see my finger through this beer at all but it's not as easy as the Julius I think it's a little bit. They're all pretty everybody or so far has been hazy same type of period thin white head not a whole lot of carbonation in this one at least on the visually. I think I'm doing a good job a point here because I think. All of these have the right amount I had that's not too much not too thin. So I got to ask. I know Kevin is more of a traditionalist with his West Coast I.P.A. so I need to know your opinion on the spirit Kevin my opinion on his beer is that it's slightly boozy fruity just like the previous ones. Almost like drinking orange juice with beer. It really easy to drink it really really easy to drink and since it's kind of boozy I could see how you could have seven he I mean it gets to you. Yeah there is a little more orange genus to this beer. I mean I said that on the previous ones. But I do get that and it's a little bit of a more pronounced with the citrus Yeah a little bit of like red neck most type thing. I think with a spear though it's definitely citrusy It reminds me of like if you have orange juice that sits in the

fridge a little bit too long. It starts to ferment and you smell it and you don't want to drink it because you. You know and I'm not saying this beer is going to be bad but it just reminds me of orange juice that is starting to ferment how many brewery

that did you guys go to before you went to this one. Well this is last night the last night of the Last Night of the trip we didn't go to this brewery. But we found it on tap at a local brew local bar. I think we're going to like eight or nine total

breweries. Now this night I actually didn't have very many beers this was my one beer of the night I ended up being the designated driver. And I remember thinking this was really great. I still enjoy it. I don't think I enjoyed it as much as I did that night. Maybe it's been a while but still very good beer. I think it's very tropical in in its taste very citrus and I think that that's very dictated of the North East where they're very forward. Me personally I think I joined the western or the West Coast. I.P.A. as a little bit more than I do the north east out but. That being said this is still a really really good beer I still one of my favorite beers so taste wise I get a little more Maltin us in the spear and I take back what I was sort of sand I didn't mean that in a bad way. I think this is a really nice tasting beer. There's more malts that are present here than the other one so far and definitely some citrus but I get a lot of mango. I mean the most dominant flavor here in the aftertaste for me is mango and given how to write is it there's more body to it. I mean it's a little bit more boozy to it. Yeah business too. I should say in MC It kind of makes me wonder what drives these north east because typically climate will you know drive the flavor. Typically you know you'll see the colder the state the higher the A.B.V. or that alcohol content and you know here in California you have a lot of west coast IP A where there are cleaner. They're lighter and they're a lot happier knowing that this is Vermont and makes me wonder why so much fruit forward rather than alcohol content or body. I don't know because we I mean in Southern California. We have some like eight hundred night one thousand percent. I would call.

A.B.V. beers from like the brewery places like that is this saying your palate a while though I could still take to that after finishing I know earlier we were talking about new beer trends and I think one of the trends that I see a lot are sour beers. We

don't have any on today's pod cast but I see this more and more prevalent with the sour beers and I see that they're very very fruit forward and I wonder if maybe the I.P.A. zur start to take a hint from that trend and maybe that's why these ne I'll be yours tend to be more fruit forward. I'm not certain. I'm thinking maybe it's very possible to point it could also be sour ZX tend to appeal to a different. Audience of then standard beer drinkers. Like I think that it's a little more accessible to the non beer drinker drinker like I know a lot of people who don't drink beer but they drink sours and it's a way to like open up to a new audience and I think that there is a segment of people that are not conducive to the very hockey I.P.A. beers and I think that they might be more conducive to this more juicy east coast tile. Well and none of these beers are better and that's I think a very unique difference from the West Coast style beers the West Coast I.P.A. as I mean so many of them have some lingering bitterness and I think for the most part most of these beers do not have any sort of bitterness to them are let's get into the last beer before the break we have from been back at brewery I've never had a beer from them before this beers from Finback brewery in Queens New York. It's called the chrome with scope I.P.A. smells good. Jeff opens a can and puts his nose right I don't know how you feel about that and you know I kind of learned that from drinking wine because you know when you drink wine. You know those can lie to your tongue the you know the company because he smell a wine. It may not. It makes KNOW that mean it taste good but typically a bear. If it smells good. It tastes good. More often than not we describe

it here by the scent of it and then we're describing the same thing by the taste of it. Wow That's true. I mean most beers the flavor carries over from the aroma so little change here. It's a golden color but I can see the shadow of my pinky through it which was not the case in any previous beer so I'm not saying this beer is clear but I'm saying it's clear earth. Now this is from New York I mean it's a little slightly different area that's a different a Romo we're getting from this. I do get more of a not a NE style but it East Coast style. I. Where you get a little more multi miss in the ear Oma I get in the aroma like a creaminess that I'm guessing this beers might have sort of a creamy mouth feel but I get some creaminess in the aroma. I don't know what kind of flavors that's going to be but just creaminess is the main thing I pick up on that's a good meal feel now. Absolutely and very very very creamy I do get more of a mall. Body than any of those last few years we had and quite

sweet the very high sweetness in this beer. Little like Sweet Honey graham cracker or something that's going on in the background. Oh yeah you know what this reminds me a lot of is the single I.P.A. from Claremont Kraft ales it's got a very similar flavor profile similar body mouth feel. This. This is a again a solid I.P.A.. I like this is a super smooth undrinkable. What C.A.V. on this perceived present which I would not have guessed it is definitely the hot sun It's a little harsher especially a lot harsher than the previous beers we had. And it's definitely a lot multi-year than the previous beers. It is it's definitely moving away from all that the first three beers of the night were typical northeast style itas this is moving a little way from it's not bitter. It's not West Coast has a malt back on that I think merely as a flavor. Yeah yeah it's a middle of the road I.P.A. when it comes to like the harshness when it comes to hops. Yeah. But I think I mean I just think this is excellent. This has such good flavor. There's some fruit in this is not overly fruity especially on a show like this where we have all these ne I.P.A. S. but there's a little bit of fruit in a snotty really citrus I mean maybe a little melon. Maybe some

tropical fruits. But it's it's you know it's fruity it's I wouldn't call it juicy. But it's a very well. Balance beer. I will say that we've talked about that this is different from the other three beers that we've had in that it's not really fruit

forward but I would actually throw out that it's not for forward however if you take a sip and you allow it to kind of linger that fruit kind of starts to resonate on your tongue or maybe even accumulates as you have more of it. So there is definitely a fruit flavor that there. Maybe just takes some time for it to reveal itself kind of an interest. No it's not it's not a citrus it's like more of a Macintosh apple or something. Yeah you know absolutely opposed to the the tangerine or the great great if you are getting on the other ones. I mean melon and tropical fruits for me and I think the flavor just kind of like I said it does linger on your tongue it almost kind of coats your tongue with that like creamy. It's not just a creamy flavor but

almost creamy texture as well. Oh yeah absolutely. Yeah very good point. I don't know about you guys but as I have in the past three beers this beer kind of explodes in a town where you know your tongue immediately says Wow. Something is alive and said that to you to go there because that. Oh my Lord to live for more I.Q. sure I did looks like they're all from somewhere on the East Coast. So we'll have those for you when we come back right here on the pier the day podcast. If you enjoy this podcast and you want to help us out and we actually appreciate the fact that so many of you helped us out during the holiday season by shopping on Amazon through the beer that a podcast. So bear that a website on the right hand side there's a little banner that says Amazon you click on that. And any shopping. You do. We'll give us a little bit a commission that we can use to purchase beer purchased flights down to southern California. So I can come down here and enjoy these beers with these fine gentleman. So yeah I was a stretch. Lance. So just for an example. This must have been a holiday purchase but somebody came to the beer the day website clicked on the Amazon banner and they purchased a Weber Performer charcoal grill twenty two inch

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It's a double I.P.A. from Inter borough spirits in ales from Brooklyn New York. Eight percent double I.P.A. now are moving into the real stuff here people. Well it's a hazy surprised. This is one of the darker beers tonight. And again not dark by any means but like a very dark amber orange. Color pretty cloudy. I mean it's all relative. But these are pretty This one's pretty cloudy. Seems like I haven't had a head on a beer in about a month very similar aroma to to the last beer little sugar sweetness a little of the tingly citrus fruit is interesting. This is eight percent. I mean we're starting off the second part of the show and there's something every day a percentage as a percent. Doesn't taste like I don't know how easily it's like no

percent. It tastes really old was the really I didn't say oh it's not going great in a lot of opinions. It's Thankee I guess I get a little bit of dank ness but not like some of the California. You know like when I think of drink beers I think of

like stone enjoy by and some of these other dinky beers and it's not like that. I mean it's a different type of think you know. No I definitely disagree with Kevin I think just a very smooth beer. I think it's very very tasty definitely not a greasy if you don't know this was eight percent I believe you. I said I don't believe you. I'm telling you what eight percent. What do you think it is like if you know one tell you I probably say it's like a six point five to seven really. Yeah absolutely. OK

well maybe I'm the only one I don't think it's very About didn't just brush your teeth they're not good. I don't think it's a balance that. It tastes like the alcohol content comes out more than the flavor of the greens. I think what's different about the spear and I just looked at the can but there's wheat in here which I don't get a lot of that but you know we don't have a lot of I.P.A. and I.P.S. I have wheat and then there's the occasional one but I think it actually adds a little bit in the flavor without overwhelming with a weedy flavor. Could that be a cause for the color because I mean this is kind of a different color than what we've seen tonight. I think what what kind of stands out with this beer is that the I would be using.

Only forty which you know living in California were used to drink a double I.P.A. have I've used like eighty ninety one hundred forty Ib use for a double I.P.A. is pretty low low. You know it's not bitter. Obviously but just to make a double I.P.A. with that low of an I B U. Not a bad thing but it's just very surprising to me it is I think that means it's a little sweeter than you would expect. I think that to get the eight percent and little bitterness you have more sugar and I think we're getting that here. And I think the low I'd be used just really just adds to the drink Bill you have this I I don't really feel the sting of the booze you know it's like Kevin said but I really think this is really easy drinking very light beer. I think you

get a little bit more modern US Like you said but there's a a sweet like caramel malt especially in the finish. You know it's not what I would expect from a double I.P.A.. It's it's kind of like brown sugar sweetness that is enjoy it or did that to defend the beer in a way I would definitely say that even though it says it has forty I.V. use this beer does use Cascade hops and any Brewer knows that cascade is one of the strongest hops out there. Also the most popular hop used in America. Yeah exactly. It really is though. Or you four you have used isn't as low as you think because a lot of times. We're told by scientists that the human tongue can only actually taste up to seventy seventy nine I use and even though there's berries out there they say they use eighty ninety one hundred hundred twenty. I've use. It's almost pointless at that point because you can't even taste it. Yeah I had a thousand. I view beer once. Today it's the damn thing. This Piers growing on me. I mean with each ship. I actually like this a lot more and I wasn't opposed to it. From the beginning but it's really like growing on me. Tasty mouthfeel I mean I don't know about you guys but I like this. Well that's grown on you. I'm going to get some round up and see if we can't control that let's get to the next beer. We have another treehouse beer. Well. We had Julius Erving earlier. Now we have the green I.P.A.. Seven point five percent. Julie It was six point it's we're moving up the chain a little bit. This is from Monson. Massachusetts comes in a nice green looking can can't miss it on the shelf and I'll take it over to be on the shelf but if it were you know there's been missin out of the shelves here but if it was it looks like a new Sprite can

without any labels. Obviously this is another one that we've really been looking forward to. I mean treehouse has a few really like Mark E. beers that they're known for and this is one of them color wise pretty similar to most of the beers tonight. A little bit lighter in color than the last few but you know a very cloudy. Orange ish amber color pretty decent had on this. I mean it's a foamy. Pretty white head and I like the thickness on this had it since I have pretty good lacing on the glass back with you are the traitor. No this is one of the one of one of the traders that we met out in Vermont that we we managed to keep in contact in the C.C.. You'll be listening. You know one of the things that I found surprising is that people out in

the northeastern East Coast as a whole kind of tend to ask for beers out here that mimic the style of beer which I I tend to think that the beers that we're tasting now are better than the beers that are out here that mimic that style. So this beer

taste wise is a little bit like Julius. I mean it definitely has a citrus hop bar juiciness to it. I don't know that I can tell it you know that much differently from what citrus taste like as a sort of similar treehouse flavor that I really like but to me it's not that different than Julius. Every a little bit more Piney now want to pick it up on why is it called Green What's what's the deal. The trying to be green tea trying to be like green trees has a green can it does have this. I picked that up but what's the tension here. So according to the can and has pineapple orange sorbet and tangerine I could see all those flavors. I mean with most of these beers I get some citrus and tropical fruit. I think that's been pretty common with all of these orange sorbet I get I don't think it delivered on one cohesive beer I do get those flavors there but as compared to Julia. I think I enjoy Julius a lot meaner than I did Green this or she didn't do it for me but I do I do love their product that they produce a treehouse Julissa was really really good but just green not for me doppelganger I'll take any day. Absolutely. I think this one actually has a little more bitterness the most the beers it had tonight. Yes and it's maybe some great fruit bitterness in the finish. But there's there's a. Decent betterness which I appreciate because a lot of these beers have zero bitterness and bitterness is not a bad thing. Some people are very turned off by a bitter beer and I am one to have like some some bitter beers or so bitter where I just don't enjoy it but a little bit or little bit of bitterness I think is good and healthy for an I.P.A. fan and this has I think like the right amount and I agree I think I like Julius a little bit better than this one but this is still a really strong. I.P.A. that I get why there's so much enthusiasm behind the spear the only thing that I can compare it to is the other two tree houses that I've had which are of the double King or and the Julius and I think that between the three. This is probably the most underwhelming. Not to say that it's a bad beer but doppelganger is actual and Julie is for the most part lives up to its name. This one. I don't know if it does a service to the treehouse I

like the carbonation on this. I think it's just it's an interesting taste like the mouthfeel I like the carbonation I like the bitterness. It's it took a few sips but I like this more a lot more than the very first step. I had All right let's go to the next we're we've got another collaboration between the other half and Trillium. This beer is called like whoa like whoa from Brooklyn New York we've got a lot of New Yorkers on the show. One two three four half the beers from New York on the show and tell you what the nose and it's been smells like Brooklyn that a good thing no like whoa this is a double I.P.I.. So Trillium were pretty familiar I felt like piece of the show but they're all eight eight eight eight. Yeah pretty pretty consistent

here with the alcohol percentage but Trillium we've had a lot of there in Boston we had a lot. We've had some shipped to us we brought some back from our recent trip. Over all you know we really like Trillium beers and then the collaboration is with other half in Brooklyn. Like whoa eight percent. Color wise. I mean I keep saying this but it's pretty much the same color as most of these beers tonight maybe a little bit lighter. A light yellow golden a little a little bit of orange a little bit

of orange but it's fairly light. Probably the second lightest beer tonight quite cloudy right now. Usually zero clarity into this thing you cannot see it through this at all but a pretty thick white foamy head aroma wise I mean it's more of the citrus than I think I would expect. I think we just chose all the same beers this one tastes very similar to treehouse only I'm only saying that because it doesn't stand out. It's that distinctive there's no i'm looking for a while factor in his beer and I just don't see it. Maybe a whoa factor. Yeah like well that's like won't you. I think this one tastes the most like monkish beers and maybe I've just had a lot. Lemon in the L.A. area recently I've had a lot of monkey Spears but this one has the same sort of characteristic I mean very recently I had karate kick. And a couple of other I.P.O.'s are monkish and this is fairly similar it's got the same sort of flavor profile the same mouth feel. And I enjoy it very citrusy. Very dry and I like the carbonation in this it's very dry the finish very dry. Not at all. Better almost no Malta no spin it's just a very dry. But easy to drink I.P.A. maybe getting help help me with this there's I don't want to say peppery but there is some element to this beer. That's a little bit of a spiciness Yeah peppery spiciness. I don't know maybe guessing tell me you know who doesn't their beer sometimes stone. They have a lot a lot of their I.P.S. had this pepper is she almost spiciness to their IP I found the same thing in the the collaboration they did that Trillium did with monkish the one with the the mango. I can't remember the name of ever and again exactly that one had a lot of a peppery after taste. But it isn't really peppery or what is what is that flavor that I'm getting it's like a white pepper. So what it is white pepper. I think that could be a yeah yeah I think at the at the end you get that peppery No it definitely is like for a wine drinker out there like what you get from a surat it's a similar. I don't want to bad mouth the brewer but sometimes it happens when you pour the hops too low or sometimes when you will is it something that they're going for I mean this is a flavor that they're targeting. It usually those are unwanted flavors and I think this is the most bold beer we've had tonight. It is this. It's probably the strongest Maybe it's because it's one of the last ones we've had but it's kind of like the strongest. Not the easiest to drink. I thought it was super you know smooth at first but it's not the easiest to drink. It's a little more bitter. I kind of enjoy that I think a lot of these verses that have been very juicy very fruity orange juice see citrusy. And this one has a little more of a little bite on the end of it like a little snake bite you know yeah it's like making you a pale. A bit for the eight percent and you know I think we need to pay a little bit. This is a remind you of the stone I.P.A. stone I.P.A. is not cloudy at all. And this is quite cloudy so I think the stone I.P.A. is more better more west coast less of this juicy unless he so that they're a little different but it reminds me of a more of stone I.P.A. than anybody read had tonight. OK yeah. At least they flavor away the kind of reminds me of them. The weather wise. It could be maybe very similar hop profile. Yeah just the brewing process is what's different. That's good and the final beer in the night we have from San City Brewing Company in North Port New York this is the second wave Imperial I.P.A.. I think Hugo says Tell us about this bear. I think when I was waiting at a couple of the beer can releases this was very highly recommended by the other people that were there. I was asking what they recently had and this came highly recommended. They said it pretty much anything from San city but specifically second wave. I deftly went out of my way to try and get this but I'm looking forward to probably as much as I did. Julie Yes this is the really the first one that has some sediment in it and you know I poured the very bottom of this can. Into my glass and I'm not opposed to Saddam and I like their earthiness and their you know beer is very alive and I truly believe that and I'm I like sentiment but there's definitely some sentiment in this question of Lance's glass in the set. It is green colored So I think he has maybe some like fresh top at the bottom of his glass but this beer similar good. Thick off white foamy had like an orange ish yellow hazy color like Dallas mentioned a moment wise more than you know fruity juicy citrus flavor. But this is what I know he goes looking forward to this the most I knew nothing of the spring before today but you know I like I like that we're trying some new york beers tonight. Let's let He'll weigh in here because I know he's excited about this. Yeah I think it's a very very heavy citrus aroma it's coming from it. Yet to taste it. So I'll just comment on the mouth feel this is a very creamy melon feel like Foamy cream ale type of. Texture to it that makes it very drink a bowl. Yeah I think it's an X. unexpectedly hop year than the rest of them. I thought that was going to be just as mellow as the other ones this is a lot more hop word than than the rest of them. I think it's a little more. I don't know it's Piney But it's it's a different type of hops and we've had tonight. And I think overall this is one of the more well balanced beers we've had there's some nice small to us. There's a good amount of hops. It's a little bit different. You know flavor profile this I could see this coming from a California brewery. It's tasty I mean it's got it's just all around nice flavor. I'd definitely think this is like West Coast meets East Coast you get a lot of that Piney hop Enos to it with that cloudy north east effervescent little micro blob in the Yeah Yeah I really had the Eagle Rock on there was supposed to be it was a collaboration with Staten Island Brewing Company not your bros not your bro DA and that's what I think that's what we thought that beer was going to taste like like this but that was. Very west coast leaning this I think is is more middle of the road. This is truly is you get a little bit more of the West Coast hop style with the hazy malt backbone from the East Coast. So they coalesce pretty well it's very like I said middle of the road between those two styles. I would say Hugo you found the winner because there's definitely a lot of Piney in there but this is out of the out of all the beers you tasted today this is probably the most well balanced and has the most flavor profile hops it's smooth this creamy. And it's something that you can drink on a daily basis. Yeah. What's the alcohol and say percent eight percent eight percent. That's pretty incredible. Yeah. For how smooth smooth it is it really is. Yeah. All right well it's the time of the show we're going to recap the beers we've had and then we will figure out who's going to go first

by spinning the wheel of beer that we shipped down here special on Southwest Airlines. Go ahead Jeff. Take us through what we had tonight. All right so we had eight beers tonight. And obviously this was a very I.P.A. centric show but we started out

with the Pale Ale a collaboration between tired hands and Hill farmstead. Called copy and paste. Next we had the treehouse Julius I.P.A.. And then we moved into the Foley brothers mutiny I.P.A.. Followed by Finback a parade from Queens New York the chromo scope double I.P.A. took a short break and after the break we tried the inter Borro spirits and Ales the next episode double IP. Also from Brooklyn New York. And a second beer from tree house called Green I.P.A.. Last two beers we had the other half and Trillium collaboration like whoa. Which is double I.P.A. and ended with the Santa City Brewing Company Second Wave Imperial I.P.A. from Northport New York thank and its waves go in for. So we talked about the story about how I went seven beers in a row with the muni. And muni from whole Foley brothers and hopefully I was thinking that it wouldn't sway my decision. And surprisingly it. It didn't. I'm actually going to go with the Finback chroma scope to me it was a great beer I do like the fruity flavors with it. It wasn't so much fruit forward but it did have a lingering fruit note coalesced the malt backbone with that fruit flavor and their great mouth feel something that I really enjoyed. So I'm going to go with the chrome scope that's mine for the night. Nice Hugo. You know going to be a little bit of a coward here and to stew beers going to choose the Finback for the pick one I going to say what you like about both of them. But then after you're done you have to pick one. I really like that Finback the first part of the show. I think that almost had kind of a milkshake. Feel to it and then in the second part I really really really enjoyed the density. So you're. Shipwrecked on a on a deserted island for the rest of

your life and happened to be on that ship there was a one of the cargo holds held. OK A shipment of one of these beers maybe about twelve hundred K. exhibit and that's going to be washed up on shore as well. So what beer. It's wasso points or washed up on shore with you. I mean if I have to choose I'm going to go with sand city I think that was just a really good West Coast East Coast and I tend to like the Pioneer flavor so I think that's what I'm going to go with that. That's all I'm asking. Yes Yes I'm going with sensitive second wave. I thought it was really smooth it was citrus he is balance. The most looking for a beer that doesn't necessarily taste like a beer because I'm really looking for flavor profile. I don't want the alcohol content to outweigh the flavor and I don't want to hops out wave away the flavor. I want to be or that just is completely balance and to tonight to me it's Second City second then city second wave was the best for me I have three really really nice

peers and I like the Finback the sense city and the treehouse Julius. And I think all were very very good beers I like that we had you know a similar beers. But there was enough to distinguish between them. And you know this is a hard choice but. I'm actually going to go with the treehouse Julius as my pick as the beer of the day. I you know it was our second beer of the night and it's hard because we had so many really quality beers but I really enjoyed the flavor profile of the citrus the tropical

fruits the melon. I just thought that was an extremely taste. Beer and this show is all about the beers that we've traded for and when I look back at all these beers that is one that I would like to trade for a lot in the future. And I just you know

I was. Had high expectations. It was good and I'm really glad that you guys are able to get that So Julius from tree house nice very good beer. I am going to select Sin City Brewing Company Second Wave Imperial I.P.A. for the same reason that he

goes said basically this beer is a perfect balance between the Northeast which was heavily featured on this podcast and a little bit more of the bitter west coast type of I.P.A.. It was very well balanced. I mean there was that creamy mouthfeel that makes it very drink a bowl and it's a beer that you could you could drink all day and not go wrong with it and it eight percent. It gives you enough bang for your buck to make it worthwhile. So for me. SAN city that is my favorite beer the day although a lot of good beers on the show tonight and very similar style so it was a tough decision. Well that's going to close it out first and I say we thank you all for tootin and invite you to visit our website here the day dot com Leave your comments on the site on Facebook facebook dot com slash the beer of the day and you should like us on Facebook. We're on Twitter at here. The day like it's on there. We've posted here the day every day the Week up there and we are on Instagram at beer the day site for stopping. Just check us out on social media and leave us your comments at Beer of the Day Dot Com, for Hugo Padilla Lance Burks, Kevin Seavers and Jeff Miller. I'm Dallas Heliker you've been listening to the Beer of the Day Podcast.