Beer of the Day Podcast - Get Your Kicks 66 - October 19th, 2016 - Beer of the Day

From Beer of the Day World Headquarters in California, this is the beer of the day podcast. Jeff and I just returned from our trip to the northeast and we brought back a bunch of beers from Vermont and Maine but unfortunately some of those are still in the mail. So we don't have that show for you tonight. But we will have that next time we have it even better. We have beer from all around the country six different styles from six different cities around the US of A My name

is HELOC are joining me tonight Britain my inner hero hoppin and on Skype from Pasadena. Jeff Miller what's going on party people right to go and doing well and testing. Yes So next week. Be sure to tune in. We have the shipment of NE beers coming. That's going to be a two parter so the next two episodes are all going to be beer from Maine New Hampshire and Vermont Before that though if you're in the Chico area next weekend on October twenty second. We will be at the single fresh wet and wild hop harvest festival at Sierra Nevada brewery and if you want to come out and have a good time drinking beer from all across the country that is a good festival we have been to it and have it last year we were into it. The two years before that and had a good time. It's a great time. I recommend everybody. You know it's a little bit pricey like we talked about but you know what if you want to have a good time and get a really good different variety with the bunch different breweries is the want to go to it's always a good time always I was going to the first beer the night. This is from the same Arnold Brewing Company in Houston Texas. This is the five o'clock pills and comes in the can. Yeah well poured here it's got a really thick white head on it very fluffy like kind of like snow. It's kind of a golden colored kind of a pale golden color pretty lightly carbonated I see some small little bubbles floating up to really like colored I mean it's a I was struck I had when I hold it up to the light and it's got one of those aromas of Pilsner malt right as I pour it into the glass it's the first thing I notice but it seems like a very clean pilsner malt smell not like anything that is like to chemically like like infuse during it's just very clean and fresh smelling we have had one of their beers before on a previous show saying Arnold mentioned us from Houston. It's the oldest craft brewery in all of Texas not to be confused at the Arnold Palmer You know he's a saint. Now peace. He's with Arnold. I like the flavor of this beer I mean it is very there's a lot of wheat flavor in it but it's got a good intensity to it. Regards to the strong weak and just bread flavor but it's got a little bit a bitterness in the back and it a logger taste I actually like a lot you know I was going to describe it as like I feel like there's this light honey like I'm picking up a fly on me there's a slight sweetness on it and then there is a it's almost indistinguishable bitter finish. Yeah and that maybe a little bit of citrus bitterness I don't know I get a little little lemon or something in there. What I'm going to get is the and like Jeff mentioned in aroma you get a real real pilsner. Aroma. But I actually taste whop I don't taste

balls as much. Yeah yeah and it's funny because you smell them all but you taste the hop me it is it's there it's hits you strong it it lingers it doesn't dissipate quickly it's on the back of your tongue and then it sits in your throat for quite a long time it was my first thought of you guys both kind of mentioned it. Britain and out citrus I think I feel like it's like a citrus hop is what you're kind of getting I think this is operator than most pills nurse and I don't know what you know that I be used are but I think this is Ophir the most Posner's I've had and I get the citrus but I also get some sort of earthy spiciness I think somebody mentioned some spice on the finish. I get a little bit a kick. But it's just so it's a hop piece but simple pilsner it's really tasty good flavor. You know I'm not the biggest pills or fan it's not really my go to but this one is nice and crisp enough complex city and flavors in there. And you know I wouldn't mind drinking this one any in the do the week so we don't ask this question very often but I always wonder you know on a scale from one to ten if ten was the coldest a beer could possibly be without freezing. What would be your preferred temperature for this beer either zero which is room temperature or ten as cold as you could possibly get. What would you prefer this beer at nine point five. Yeah I'd want it pretty cold like nine point five eight. So yeah I want this beer almost on a ten because I feel like the colder it was the more I would enjoy it. It's like a little bit of harshness the warmer it gets in my opinion a little bit but I mean the beer is pretty warm announcement sitting out a little bit and I still go. You know I'm not getting any funkiness or anything that you know I would. You know dissuade me from drinking it but I think Joe you bring up a good point. I mean the name of the spears five o'clock pills I mean it's one of those berries that you can drink every day you get off work. It doesn't matter what what season it is I mean this is just like an every day drinking Pilsner and it doesn't say AM or PM So it could be a morning. Well before we get to the next beer. Does anyone have any interesting beers they had this week they want to mention. Yes So on Monday. I went to Sierra Nevada. And Chico and I actually was able to pick up a northern hemisphere harvest wet hop I.P.A. which was actually released. That day when I was there so you know we had it fresh and I actually brought a bottle back here we tried it. Tonight as well. So I had the odd draft and I had it tonight as well and I remember having this series before I was really impressed with this beer it's just I mean obviously we're getting it a week old so a lot of that has to do with the experience that you're having as well with the beer and how would this but this beer was very multi but also had a lot of oily I call it the oily hop where it's fresh and it's from it's intense in Dallas you tried some as well. What did you think of it. I love. I like I like their fresh copiers. The celebration is my favorite punter is has that same type of flavor where they had to still hop oils to get that really fresh hop taste. All year round. So I'm a fan of of all these harvest beers that they do and I think the Northern Hemisphere is usually my favorite I think. You know we get a lot of Northern Hemisphere hops here and that's kind of what our palates have become accustomed to and so the Southern Hemisphere ones become a little bit funky here. It's not really funky like in a beer sense but it tastes a little bit off it's like something you're not accustomed to and also comes across the southern hemisphere once. Across more dry to me it's almost like a dusty flavor to it. That's the batiks place but. It's just more dry flavor verses that oily intensity that you get from the northern hemisphere hops. Yes So I joined that one that you brought tonight. And when I go to Chico this weekend I'll have to I'm sure they'll have it

there as well. Salt. I'll give it another shot them. Jeffery have any beers you want to mention Yeah I do have one that you had as well speaking of our trip just to New England I won't mention any of the beers that are from there but we had the privilege of having founders K.B.'s the Kentucky breakfast out which I have never had it. I've been looking for for a while I can't really get it in California and it was just it was so good it was one of those imperial stouts that you know all the coffee and the chocolate and the you know the bourbon barrel aged flavors you get and I think it was very fitting that was the last beer we had of the night and it's you know something like twelve percent it was just really delicious and I think we all enjoyed that. Yeah pretty good bar we went to it was called the prohibition payroll division pig. You know you get heavy top or do you want T.B.S. night or a bunch of other beers a good choices. You know we start with a heavy top or with your with your food and then you end the night with founders K.B.'s that was it was a good night. Or let's move to the next beer. We have now from Sweet Water Brewing Company Atlanta Ga. This is the four twenty M. for her tail. I'm expecting this one to be a little drink. This one's five point seven percent. Now I don't know if you guys know this but for twenty is some type of code word for some type of I think it's product I don't know I think for my birthday. Yeah. So little bit more of like a golden yellow color and that head is pretty thick and foamy Yeah. Yeah a little cloudy slight haze slight haze would you call it a purple haze. No this is from Atlanta. I think this is a good summer not having tasted at a good summer time lanta drinking beer. So they can says that it's a tasty West Coast style pale. It's funny because when I smelled it I was like man this tastes. Sorry it smells like a lot of the Paleo that we get out here in the West. Is just got a lot of that I hop E.. And tensity that you get in a lot of the pale ales out here in the West. So they can recognize there's that kind of smell to it. I feel like it tastes on par with a lot of pale else that you have and then it kind of falls a little bit short and themas slightly like a slightly watery finish. I was going to say it takes a little soapy like the texture and not in a bad way but the mouth feel it's it's much higher carbonated than most of the pale ales we drink. I agree with the soapy for sure. I don't. So we just personally I'm really surprised with this beer. You know what you get these random beers from the East Coast. You don't know how old they are you don't know what kind of process they use but this one has kind of a sweeter flavor a really good like

tropical hop type of taste and then you know it's not very bitter it's you know more in the sweet side than bitter side. And it is a lighter mouth feel so the watery thing I think comes from that. But I think it's very drink will be or be in five point seven percent. You know it's kind of a solid pale ale. Yes definitely drink a bowl like yeah. On my first sip which I doesn't mean patented three separate. Marmont But but the very first thing that you know mind is that this appears very complex and then at the exact same time very reserved like a kind of you get a lot of flavor but none of them are overpowering but would you say this. Beer is more or less happy than the previous beer we had which is the pills. I would I would say it tastes less. Yes I would agree he's well I think it's more happy but I think with the last beer. It was that was more happy for the style of a pilsner through the head of on par for a parallel maybe a little less Poppy like than Syrian about a pill. Yeah. Would you say it it's grassy sea for twenty I think it's a grassy hop flavor. You know it doesn't it's not as dangerous tasting as I would have assumed just by the name of it and it looks like the other interstate for twenty sign. I'm guessing that's probably an interstate that goes through Atlanta. I don't know it's I think it's a good beer but it's not how I expected it to taste I thought with a name like for twenty I was expecting something different one. It definitely I don't think that the taste

follows the aroma. It smells like a lot more like it's going to be more substantive than what you're tasting. I agree with Steve I think it's pretty reserved a little bit watery and I'm not saying that in a bad way. I'm just thing like and I think that Steve described it better. It's just really reserved. It is that you know let's get into the beer news of the day there is trouble brewing in the craft beer industry. It's brewing. You see what they did there. They're brewing trouble. They sure are so some of the small. Or breweries specifically creature comforts Brewing Company they are growing so fast that their supply chains cannot keep up and the crux of the issue is that they can not find enough Sitra hops and some a quick interjection Yeah the article say crooks or is that you now it's me that was great. Thanks. Yeah yeah. So basically there's a shortage of these There's like ten different hops than most craft beers use in situ is a big one and they haven't been able to get the supply for it so much so that. They've had to reject orders of about eight thousand barrels over the past year or two million dollars in revenue because there's not enough hops to go around. I think from my grocery experience. This is something that like the big soda companies do and I know it's not exactly the exact same person but like Pepsi especially they'll try and buy all the shelf space they can at the big retail chains with a little soda companies don't have anywhere to put their sodas. But I

feel like the bigger companies can buy all the citrus hops. So we'll pay whatever you want for you know we'll pay as much as you want to charge us and the little guys can't help it I'm for now what's interesting about that point that you're making is that it's saying that the problem is actually being created by be tons of tiny breweries that are snapping up all of these hot huge demand for right. Yeah there's a huge demand for these hops the question I asked when I first read this article was like well why don't they just develop different varieties of hops then like our I find we can't get cetera like let's go something out. It says in here that it takes hop developers ten years to develop hops like to cross-pollinate plants to create a

proprietary hop it's not just a hop skip and a jump to create if they would YOU did that where they said the. Even the hop growers their production is up like sixty five percent but because of the massive growth of beers. It's gone from twenty thousand different beers you get five years ago to thirty thousand and now from two thousand breweries five years ago to four thousand breweries now. So it's like everybody wants a little piece of it and so and they're having to sign these contracts five year contracts to be able to get the get the beers. I will tell you that and you know I have brewed with secure hops a couple of times in the past like twelve months and we do pay a premium to purchase our sister hops verses like a cascade or a centennial hop. So no here's what's interesting about it though it seems like it's a little bit of a vicious cycle because the shortage of hops is slowing down production right. But then because that production is slowing down. It's making the farmers

nervous and they're not wanting to continue to grow hops because they don't want to have like. Oversupply So it's like you know trying to balance like the tension of supply and demand is like totally a thing I don't know I think if I could go back like ten or fifteen years I would be a hop farmer is I think right now they are making a ton of money because there's so much demand for the hops and a lot of these are based on these contracts where a brewery will sign up to buy a certain amount of the hops for X. number of years. And so I think they grow to meet those contracts. I wonder if that's just the rights to buy the hops on the contract or if you're saying it's the price per product or whatever you know. Yeah because I mean there's a lot of there's tons of breweries that want that they just can't get I mean we see that all the time I mean there's breweries that can't make the beers they want to make because they have the shortage of the hops they want or they'll only make it for part of

the year when if they can get the hops they'd make it year round. I think that's just the reality of the industry right now. Yeah. And so this is the first year that the growth of craft beer is actually been in the single digits they've been double digit for six years and now eight percent this year so it's slowed down a little bit and part of that is due to these hops shortages. The other story this week that has to do with the slowdown of the craft beer industry is that Stone Brewing Company in San Diego. The second third fourth largest brewery. Third third. Just laid off seventy five employees some of them ten year employees. And which is pretty crazy considering they just opened a brewery in Berlin. They just opened a brewery in in Virginia and they're opening a new one in Santa Rosa area. Napa area. So they're opening three new breweries but they're having to lay off long term employees which is pretty surprising. The reason they said is due to an unforeseen slowdown in our consistent growth and changes in the craft beer landscape. We have had to make difficult decision to restructure our staff. Unfortunately this comes despite a year that includes incredible accomplishments of opening two new breweries which are ultimately expanding the availability of stone beers and boosting the reputation of American craft beer in Europe. More recently however the larger independent craft segment has developed tremendous pressures pacifically the onset of greater pressures from big beer as a result of their acquisition strategies the further proliferation of small hyper local breweries have slowed growth with business in the market now less predictable. We must restructure to preserve healthy future for our company. Even given these circumstances we will continue to fiercely to be fiercely independent and importantly stay on remains the largest of the. So the topic at the end will basically they're they're feeling the pressure of all this on the market is now starting to retract a little bit and so at. At that stage while they're doing this massive expansion. They're having to cut some of the staffing. But she really doesn't surprise me. I feel like there's a lot of businesses and a lot industries that when they decide to start growing and expanding they quickly realize that may not be their best way to develop their company. Restaurants at all time local restaurant will want to open a few more chains in their local area and they quickly fail to realize is the one

location they had Poyser of their clients the best. So I feel like so Joel and I both work for a fairly large telecommunications company and we see this a lot and the general strategy is to expand certain segments of the business while shrinking others. Right. And so especially for like be. More tenured employees you're going to be paying them more because they've been there the longest right so you will get your biggest bang for the buck by eliminating that costs right at the same time that you're expanding other areas of your business and in addition to that you're kind of like. Out with the old in with the new could be a little bit of a culture change that needs to happen in stone too. So there's a couple things I have to say about this

situation. One is three years ago if we would have gone to the top burger joint in Sacramento. We would have seen a ton of stone beers. Maybe two beers we would've seen two or three beers from lager neatest from Sierra Nevada. Now when I go to that same burger joint I'm seeing a ton of Sacramento specific breweries and sometimes I'm a hard time finding any beer to drink at these local Sacramento restaurants that is not a Sacramento or Northern California brewery where as you know before in the past you would have these big breweries that were still craft brewers and you would be able to go there and try different beer. From stone or lager need us or you know green flash the large West Coast beer breweries but I feel like more often. We're seeing restaurants and local decision choices for distribution. We think about we went to Seattle. We went to Seattle. All we sall was Seattle beers in every restaurant because they stuck local that's true is even true back east. We went to Vermont and there was people were only drinking Vermont beers and we said we're from California. We have all kinds of good beers out there like we're we're as California. But I think that's good. I mean I think we're all for drinking local beers and you guys made really good points. I think the other thing this article is saying is you know it does it doesn't mention if these layoffs were in San Diego or if they were elsewhere but we've sort of talked about this before. Like in the San Diego area. The

market does seem a little saturated I mean there's now one hundred thirty breweries in San Diego County and I don't know how how long that's sustainable or I mean but Stone is obviously seeing a lot more competition I mean they all see a lot of competition and it's hard to compete and you know they're laying off. I think it's five percent of their workforce. I think it makes sense. I mean they're just seeing the slower growth and I think a lot of it has to do with the number of breweries in San Diego County. Well absolutely and you have to do whatever you can to remain competitive right. And so if eliminating five percent of their workforce those that like I actually think it makes sense to from a business perspective like you have to continue terming competitive that the name of the game. Yeah. My honest opinion on this is that where did you come from so just living just. At me and I was going to introduce you before the next beer. I K I know but I feel strongly this. That's why I was like I need to say something. Look you know Stone is expanding they're making they're making more locations more breweries right so why lay off eighty five people because you guess what you probably have some bad apples. It's some restructuring that's going on and so that the little disclosure that was just read off. I mean that's that's an H.R. person writing that and we know it's B.S. They're just getting rid of some people they probably don't need anymore. There probably is a bit of you got it you know yet. The we're taking the company in a new direction yeah new direction and maybe you're not needed. I mean let's face it a lot a lot of these a lot of these companies you know some you know maybe some friends were higher that are needed a

more maybe who knows who knows who's being laid off but there's not really specific. I mean if they're expanding why you're right of people. My guess is that the San Diego area is slowing down and their growth is everywhere else. Yeah exactly. I mean if you want to have a stone or a Sierra Nevada beer right now you've got to go to Applebee's or you've got to go to Chili's to do it. So we go up and that's so bad I think it's obvious they're pursuing different like a completely different strategy.

They're looking into new things that other birds are not doing like with the hotel or whatever and they're cutting it to me it's just standard like OK we got a cut. You got to turn the fat right. I'll tell you what they're doing right in Boston we went to a bunch of stores in Vermont. We went to a bunch of liquor stores. Every single place the most popular California beer was stone they had all of them at every store it was a incredible they would like to see on about it. They had eight different stone beers. I think they have a Dunkin Donuts to was a couple Lisa. We were stony Brewer talked about that was like launching a program to invest in smaller breweries Yes but that's kind of funny. They're taking their capital to invest in even smaller breweries and then to get them to jump started and now here they are you know we're tracking. Well that's one of the reasons they cited for the lower growth right because the other smaller craft microbreweries were taking their market share. Well those microbreweries are they want to expand there's some people they could hire that are needed job. Yeah seasoned employees out there available. You know. All right let's move on to the next beer. We're way behind schedule. This is for a voodoo Brewing Company in mead Ville Pennsylvania. What do we have a schedule. This is called killer pills. I'm just here to drink a beer. What are we doing seven point five percent. Joel is rapidly pouring. So we need to drink his beer that for twenty extra pale L. pretty good who is the Sweeney dude. Hey guys I'm Sweeny they so many they did I joined a little late. I had a doing. We don't want to know. Nobody knows you're being Sweeny I was I was being so mean to me. Bill. Anyways thanks for having me. And that it be here. Dallas did you say this is a seven point five percent lager. Yes I'm sorry a seven point five percent lager. It's an imperial lager. I would like to add that it feels fantastic kills it smells really good using killer pills. This will kill you. It's unfiltered and little pills Yeah. So one of the reasons why this beer smells so amazing is because it has a lot of mall and sweetness on the front end of it. OK Were whole Hold on hold on. Oh boy. It is. Light color superimposed on. Darker golden yellow golden yellow. Yeah it's got kind of a little hazy medium white head of the color of yellow snow pretty thick low carbonation just a very slight haze and there. Describe the aroma Steve I don't like natural honey that's what it is like Alicia's it's a natural on your roll fresh out of the Beehive. So if your geography nerd out there. I just looked this up because I don't know where Mead Ville and Sylvania is but it's just north of Pittsburgh and just east of Cleveland. Yeah I get I get some some grass. You know some grass see I guess you're not at all. You know your taste on the nose on the nose on the nose but do you know that like a field of wildflowers being pollinated by just the biggest bumble bees you've ever seen. Yeah buddy yeah I get that totally I get a little bit like it does have a little bit of like a dry finish to me you know a bit like death Keating it really like the moisture off your tongue. That's the second episode in a row you use the word. I don't want I get a little bit of dry wheat. But not too sweet corn bread. I was just looking at the bottle it's made with eight different types of European hops. I would guess seven. I mean a lot of pilsners have European hops I mean just just like the very first only had like a lot. I mean we don't have too many pairs I have eight types of hops you know especially one the where there is a hop profile but being a log or it is reserved. Geoff you sold this way short it doesn't decide it right is your hand it lays this back down with its eight varieties of European hops on Fools will be talking. So that way is that a kilo it's a killer pill. Well this is a podcast we be talking back in is down right now and it's I mean it's the strongest

lager I've ever had. I mean it's for sure it's not boozy but the alcohol. I mean you can get a little bit of kick from the alcohol and it catches up with you after a few sips I think it's really good. Yes To me it doesn't is like a log or you know I thought I was just going say that what anybody tastes think is a good lawyer. Well well now. Well Imperial blonde. It's just it's pretty bitter and you're right it's very dry in the finish. But it's pretty bitter I mean there's a lot of characteristics that you would traditionally find in an I.P.A. and you're seeing that in this type of lager which I think is unique. It's interesting but it's got a lot of like grassy and floral bitterness that I like you know if you'd call this an I.P.A. then I wouldn't of I would think OK it's a lighter hopped I.P.A. but it has the alcohol has the hops. Is it a lager is that what we're talking what the differences here. The East. It is there's some breweries a just do all walkers and. You know they're pale log and I.P.L. is an I.P.L.. Yes regardless of who's cutting down the trees. It shouldn't matter. I mean can we all agree on that because they're loggers as far as the loggers go. Can we just all agree. Yeah yeah I agree and I disagree with some of those comments but I just think this is a unique pilsner It's not like any other pills and i've ever had it Poppy and it's the highest alcohol content deals and I've had if I did this in a blind tasting I would have never guessed it's a lager by any means. So I like it. It's something unique. But we had it very bitter very dry not too bad. All right well that's halfway done with the show tonight. We were at seven point five percent now and we step it up with eight point three ten point nine and

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so much on so it's one of the what half you rot. Telegraph Brewing Company Santa Barbara California. I think we're about to find out what he rock. Eight point three percent. We're getting up there. We got some strong ones to close out the show tonight. It's pretty light like color. Yeah like it pours pretty light but this is a golden ale or it's like a Belgian strong ale but it's. Very golden color very pretty clear with quite a few tiny bubbles and a white or off white only had I thought the

killer pills smelled good. Yeah this one is really good amazing you get that Belgian yeast smell to it. That's when some smells to me like a little bit more citrusy than most of them have a ton of fruit smell to this for sure. I definitely get the Britannic my see's smell as well. Super slight though like it not ferment Yeah like a not like sour art in a way no. More like of Iran or do you ever feel like the bread of my seas just style in general you know almost it's almost like a like a Ses on almost you get that really bright carbonation on the front of your tongue. I don't know. Are you guys getting that all. Yeah yeah absolutely. I get some good some banana tongs and an hour. I was thinking it's like even been in the can yes exactly. And then now and later did yeah it's not like like actual banana fruit it's been in a candy flavored you know it's those what those little those little plastic key looking over remember those it's around the dinner like bananas. I want to take you on a side track that Dallas is going to hate but so the banana candy flavor that does not taste like bananas that we have now is because the type of bananas. They used back in the day to create the artificial flavor. Going to go ahead. It's from like the

fifty's and that type of banana is extinct. We don't. So they don't taste anything like you know like the artificial flavoring that we associate with banana Candy is what the bananas in the fifty's used to taste like what I had to taste is. They have the bit him a little slices and they dry them and they're. Like those but you know like I do not share all manner of yeah yeah but in the chips just summarize banana. I would say we all that out for banana one it's interesting because the bottle says lemon peel. Yeah I don't really get much lemon at all. I mean there's a slight citrus maybe in the after taste a little bit but even the breath now as I'm drinking this more of the bread has really fallen off well I'm not getting as much as I did

on the first sip I feel the exact opposite. I think I'm getting much more bread as like as I get farther farther into this. It has a little bit of bitterness at the end of the finish. But not like anywhere near like the other beers that we've had tonight. I don't call it bitter that I call it. That's what I'm saying I'm getting more bread out of it because it has that just more yeast more you know has that East. Yeah Christmas used banana bread I mean this is so bright and it's so easy to drink. I don't know it's just really smooth for me anyways in a Belgian a lot of Belgian beers have that banana and east characteristics and you know this has the Brett obviously I've had a lot of Brett beers lately and I think this is very mild. I mean there is very little if if I didn't know otherwise I would never have guessed said Brett in the spear you know it's pretty thought I got on the smell and I got on the first taste but now the banana is all I taste. It's like banana bread banana chips

banana Candy. But this season and beer. This is quite minute but really good flavor I mean this is their tenth anniversary beer. Yeah. What do you think of this as a ten year anniversary beer I mean we sort of had debates about what a brewery should do

what kind of style for an anniversary beer. I mean is this is this. It in for a ten year anniversary. I think they should do whatever the hell they feel like right. I mean part of it is just not being that familiar with the brewery maybe this is the style they can always do and so they just wanted to have a very well crafted version of this style which I would say this seems like a very well crafted beer to me it does. I think the US want to do something special you want a crappy beer for your tenth anniversary beer. That's kind of a general rule. Yeah yeah you read you could tally me bananas and well. Like you. We're going to do like the tenth anniversary of this podcast. We'd make sure it was a good show like not like this one that's the bit of a shot fired. Well this is this is a Santa Barbara area that I've been to I think Dallas probably has and they're I mean New York is as good. I mean ten years as a craft beer industry ten years. Oh it's great it's not that I mean we see some that are twenty and twenty five years but I mean this is a very well established Santa Barbara. I think so for you know what tenth anniversary beer I think that a brewery should brew whatever they want but I think Dallas makes a great point. Obviously you don't want to be a crappy beer and I agree with Steve that this is a it just tastes like a well crafted beer. It does. Yeah I mean when you're adding things up at the end of the day it's it's it's nice it's got the banana. It's got the brightness that I look for that I really like. And the problem I see is really goes with that kind of that Brady banana flavor. So yeah really good. I think that what God wrought was banana God Rotman M.-A incoming transmission. You've got mail. Come. This week on our last show episode number fifty seven the great pumpkin beer show on and you know no you don't know people showed up last time for the pumpkin. I'm sorry Richard none of us were I miss you all missed out on I mean he was here. Oh thank you Jeff was here but I put make a pumpkin show no one everyone does bales from rich. Oh Buckeye nut Richie. He's our most frequent commenter on pumpkin pie a turkey cranberry and it's also good love that you called out ale works as beer the day I had the

chance to visit there right. When they were finishing their new tap room a few years. A few years ago great brewery. I still have a growler from there and I wish to get it filled with a pumpkin ale you all made it sound so amazing I picked up a smashing pumpkin from Cascade barrel house in Portland on my June trimmed. So I'm looking forward to trying that one. Once the weather gets below seventy degrees the extended crew missed out. I love pumpkin beers so this was a great show extended crew you missed out your salary which left that comment on the website during the day dot com Follow the podcast below any beer of the day you can leave comments and we encourage you to do that on Instagram. We are at Pier the day site and we posted from

Hill farmstead brewery and we brought beer back from them and we just we just bought one. We'll talk a lot about that berry. We do that we do so to close the picture from there and Abby says tests. What are the cloudy ones they were all cloudy with eight beers eight on the thing and they were all cloudy and Jeff says it's north east I.P.A. style cloudy turbin Pais eat whatever you want to call it tend to be juicy two very delicious and different from the West Coast West Coast I.P.A. So this is a theme there and it's actually had a big. Trained in beer and definitely a different style of beer and next week we're going to have well we're going to two episodes about seven beers an episode of fourteen different beers fry from there we'll get

we'll delve right into the northeast. Can we just talk back in about just using the word often want to give you props but thank you. I read that it was like yes good job on the vocabulary there Jeffrey. Yeah buddy. If you would only promise you could do so on Instagram add here that a site We're on Facebook at facebook dot com slash the beer of the day and on Twitter at beer the day. Let's go to the next beer. We have from addle Bert's brewery in Austin Texas but Britain what's the percentage on

this this ten. Point man. You can see. Yeah. The numbers two eleven because the vote is that and most of that and that's go up to ten exactly does that mean it's louder is I wounder Well it's one louder. Isn't it. It's not ten you see most most lives in the by ten euro ten you know all the way up all the way out. You know the way out. You don't tell your kids. How can you go from that. Well I don't know exactly what we do is if we need that extra push over the cliff. You know we don't put up with that exactly one day I want to just make ten louder and they can tell you that coming up next Saturday that. The structure that I was there right there. This one doesn't quite go to eleven it goes to ten point nine but close enough to for me to play my sound effect. I'm a little worried about this one just based on the nose here because what Belgian beers the. Very strong. I am going to Belgian beers are very good at is masking the alcohol. Yes And somebody say with the name of this is yeah yeah.

Why don't fly in months. Yeah Belgian it's a Belgian quad Belgian quad this specializes in Belgium style beers Elgin style and this is why I always I've never been a huge bill gin style guy but I love Belgian beers. So that's I don't know maybe I'm just like a snob about it but you know that's why scales to a level it smells boozy smells really boozy Well it is boozy it's a quad it's going to be busy. I feel like so I was surprised at how dark it was and I don't know if I should have been but I feel like it's pretty dark. It's a it's a dark brown into a dark dark beer and it. It basically looks like he poured coke into a glass and I feel like it has a little cola like taste to it too so Coca-Cola. I'm looking at it and it looks but dark coke not the light coat it looks and smells what exist. The word that I'm thinking and this is the only concern I have it looks and smells lot. Yes. Yeah I would agree that there's almost no carbonation in the US It smells to me like a flat coke would smell something and I am getting a little bit of carbonation I've smelt a couple different times that report it and then initial scent right after being poured out smelt also has soured me and as it's been sitting there airing for the last minute or so it's all the sudden become of a lighter denser smell the subtle thing I picked up on it was peanuts. I smell peanuts I smell figs I smell dates. I smell. Yes reason raisin Yeah I smell all of those things and unfortunately we've had those flu. In a beer before where it's really enjoyable but you're not getting a lot of complexity in the east. As well as the mulch that are adding to those flavors and when I taste it. It's sad that my nose is similar to the taste it just tastes a lot to me there's a lot of taste in complexity you can add to a ten point nine percent beer. I'm just not getting that in this beer someone pulled this out of the fridge early. So this is a lot warmer beer than we're used to tasting. I do think it's allowing us to really get the flavor of more so that it's actually a good thing. Yeah I get like a lacquer I get a I get like you're going to stain the stain the decks of the ship with this you know that kind of very nice molasses and like characteristics that

come through but it's not viscous it's I mean it's not. Yeah yeah it's not but I'm I'm really going to stick with I'm equating it to coke like if you pour Coke and a glass. If it's warm coke and there's no I swear it's not watered down. You know how like your teeth stick together. Yeah you can I kind of getting that from the spear too early. You know like you're like grinding your tooth in there like sticking but it's better than that. Yeah yeah you know totally yeah it's that I find this beer really pleasant I mean it is exactly what everybody has been chipping in here but I think it's in a good way. Where's the ten point nine. So it doesn't feel like I was just got to come round of my very first comment as I still didn't I was worried to try and there was no worry on the taste like you could get in big trouble here. But that's the thing I don't like about it is it is very drink a bowl for an eleven percent beer very very drink a bowl but it just comes up short. To me I just don't like I wish it had more complex this is. This is a beer. Like I see that it's aged on Oak rum chips and going with what bread and said I could pour this over I said it would taste like a rum and coke. Yeah yeah definitely get the rum characteristics for

sure but the story really I mean there's lots of dark fruits like somebody mentioned the like Razan prune some dark cherries. But seriously poor this over I said it's a rum and coke. I'm describing everything that I'm describing I am not necessarily trying to give it a negative connotation like I actually like this beer. I do think there is great. A lot. Yeah I still like taste the Peano a little bit. I still get that smell. I don't know I'm picking up fills almost like I had like this. Candy the molasses bar. You have a little bit of chocolate but not in the beer so much but I'm picking up that whole it feels like I was like yeah. You definitely there is a cs kinda characteristic to this for sure. It's very sweet very hidden alcohol which means it. They've done a good job with it. I mean that's not easy to do. It's not easy to hide ten point nine percent and not have a kick. There's no kick to this in the rum rum chips. There is a barrel oak barrel. Rum chips. So it's chips added into the brewing process so oak is going to make it smooth and buttery. And then the rum is a sweet rum is a sweet liquor. You can drink that and you're not going to really get an alcoholic kick from that either. And it's kind of the you definitely get that quality in this beer. So both of those things. Absolutely. Come through in this beer. I think this beers is very complex. I think there's a lot of flavor in there. I think it's I think there is more more carbonation I know Joel's not going to grieve. But in the mouth you know it does his more carbonated than it looks but it does have like he's gotten pretty much on that lacquer grind your teeth quality yet at the same time it's a drink that will. I mean I don't know there's a lot going on to me I just want more of it is what I'm saying you want to go to eleven. I want to get a lot of it was a template one. I think it's light bodied I think the carbon Yeah it is there it's just light body did for a beer at this high of our call percentage I just sometimes they tend to be bigger and more syrupy and more viscous and that's not the spirit on it. Not in a bad way. It's just not the same thickness as moving in the next beer. We have mosque cafe Seuss. It is an Imperial Stout not eleven the this is twelve percent then eleven one nine it's twelve percent this fun goes to twelve. Yes evil twin brewing Brooklyn New York this is a damn good brewery world renowned never had a bad beer from them looking for this one. OK So this looks like

motor oil. Like I feel like black I feel like I could pour it on my pancakes is so dark. Yeah it's dark. But look so good it looks great. You know on the bottle it says this is ten W thirty five This guy has got to have a little viscosity as far as you know if you're kind of moving around or lash it in your last run a little bit. If someone Portis and here is someone poured this in a white mug important shot of a spread so next to it. I don't know if I would be able to tell the difference between a shot of espresso and this beer so very dark beer and then the head is even brown color and there's like some type of reddish hint to it that I think you can detect so I don't have a lot of head retention what I have the head at first announced. Gone. I mean the smell you get molasses chocolate little coffee. Do you get a little spice smell like a little chilly chilly. This is going to have some heat to it. Yeah I'm waiting for it. You know it's a it's a thin head but this beer has some like

that. Surely. Yeah. Holy totally and it feels like more like freeze dried coffee to me than like fresh ground and you're right with the with the heat. It's there it's not overpowering. It's like that's like the thing right now you're south and you put a little bit of chili in there it is a thing that it'll play hair in your chest and not your bad way. I don't know I think almost to the point where I cook with it. Yeah you actually know that you can but I reduce this to mean reduces do it some ribs a pork shoulder. I just don't know if I would actually sit down and drink it. I mean it's great it's fantastic. But this is one of those like sip one and you're done. But so the spices lingering So we are sharing eleven point two beer six of us. I

do not think I would want to drink. That was the tire beer by myself. No I was just thinking same question for the last twenty two ounce very anyone could drink that twenty ounce bottle could anybody think they could drink this eleven ounce bottle No it's thick and it's one of a little bit to share. It's. You know we're not quite into it rained today for the first time in like six months but we're not into the winter season yet this is a winter beer you want to have this on a cold winter night by the fire and the next. And yeah I'm not not even not it's just because it's it's so inside inside there was not do you even joke around it really is like you get all those spices that you would get from a great mall a by. At. Dallas it's something

that you would like sit by the fires you know like this is one of those so it's so Britain I in the winter time not as much in the summer will open a bottle of port and we will pour it like a two or three shots of it and then we will cork it and drink drink the rest of it throughout the week. This is a beer that I wish I could drink and in Cork and then drink it throughout the week because I don't want a ton of it but it is not unpleasant knowing it's just wavered beer. It's really strong and the thing that I am thinking is that I would actually want to cut this beer with cream and if I could make a white russian out of it. I think it might turn out better than people would think that's a good idea. You know you'd like to really get a little like that like pour this one over something no ice cream or something. Yeah absolutely. Like it. I feel like it's got super good flavor I just need to cut it a little bit but I forgot oh with a little bit of this and you mentioned on the poor you

know it was a special for you know I expected a lot more coffee flavor just by the what the name of the beer but I don't I mean there is a little bit there. But I don't I think what I enjoy about this. It's not too sweet like there's a lot of chocolate flavors but it's like a semi-sweet chocolate and yeah it's not it's not sweet and I don't like sweet drinks in general but there's some fruit in this like it takes a little bit like the chocolate covered strawberries where there's the dark chocolate on the little Cherry I think or some cherry I think you're looking like I'm a big baker's chocolate razor sharp but it's not sweet at all when it is a very very little bit sweet and they describe the brew themselves as a thick fudge like body. It's full bodied sure this is as well. Bodied as they come. I also I'm curious if you guys get this. I guess. A little licorice like black licorice in the finish anybody Oh I hate black licorice I don't I hate it too like I did a little bit earlier. I

mean I get that little bit chilly. It's interesting that it's like a small twelve ounce bottle because if a clean beers like this come in a sort of different format of the bottle. Well. Eleven point two ounce. It could be a lot like the chuck of Asia where I did it over Christmas last year and I did a chunk of A's appear over the no ice cream with peppermint candy cane Oh yeah. It was a good list it's like a root beer float for adults. So it was just delicious. That was the one stone beer that people actually mentioned back east like it was amazing delicious it was good. We just go back to Jeff's comment about this the small bottle here. Joel has poured everyone's glass twice and like there's like it's never there still beer in the bottle. It's not gone yet. You know we discovered little like a little history stamp a little bit of sense of like I would attest that through like just how rich this beer is yeah like you don't know you just like a little bit and it's going to go a long way for you but still our last beer so how about we recap the beers we've had tonight and then we'll figure out what our favorite beer they is Britain. So we started off with the five o'clock pills from St Arnold Brewing Company then we moved into the four

twenty extra pale ale from sweet water then went to the kill of pills from Brewing Company out of mean veal Pennsylvania. Then we went to what has God wrought from Telegraph brewing then flying monks Belgian quad from atl Bert brewery. I want to his

evil twin are going to spin the wheel. And we'll see who's going to go first. Thank you. It's got its first so and this is tough. This is tough tough tough. You know I will say my beer the day I mean you have to go with the what God rots from Telegraph Company Santa Barbara California. I thought it was really great on the part of my sees the bright flavor was everything I was looking for it was easy to drink and I really liked it so that's what that's what my beer the day is I am going to concur with that opinion. You kind of stole my thunder there but I thought it was great. I have not had that kind of intense banana flavor for many beer the a little bit of Bret funkiness was a good added element but it wasn't overwhelming. It was just a quality Belgian style beer. Eight point three percent very well balanced and I was really impressed with that. So that's mine. My pick. I'm going to go with the last beer the evil twin. I really enjoyed this beer and I don't think we talked about it

but it has a really robust malt flavors but I think what I really enjoyed about this beer was just that it was not dominated by any one flavor there were some chili them coffee some chocolate the group but not too much of anything it was like all four of those things. Nothing too much of any one flavor extremely well balanced full bodied twelve percent. I mean it's a strong beer but I just really enjoyed the flavor so for me it was the evil twin room coffee. As much as I agree with Jeff that there is some crazy intensity to the Imperial Stout that we had last year we had I had to choose the what has God wrought. It reminds me a lot of wells banana bread beer. Except for it has a much higher all Kohol content and also has the bread. You know it's like a little bit of like. Just funkiness that I really enjoy from that bread flavor and I'm really impressed by it. I would definitely go out and seek that beer and buy it again just because of the intensity of the banana flavor. It's unique as well as the funkiness have that bread so I'm also going to choose the what half god brought from Telegraph Brewing Company and I agree with everything that's already been said about it. So the thing that I will say is we're kind of debating as to what you should brew for tenure and I think that this was very successful in you know being a testament to burry and celebrating their ten year I think that this was an excellent effort and something that everybody should go and pick up as their ten year anniversary brew up. I am going to have to go with the killer pills. I just kind of just of the list just taste in general isn't easy to drink. Light beer. I just kind of that's just what seven point five. It wasn't. I mean it tasted light and obviously wasn't the lightest of beers but it. It was just delicious in general. So yeah good one. I like the show. A lot wasn't like thrilled about it when I saw the list like this is a weird mix of beers totally We're like at the yeah there's been a long time since I've been on the show that I was like like all these beers. I think just for the uniqueness I'm going to go with the what. It was it was a very complex very you could tell. Like I said earlier. Well crafted. Really really good beer. So I mean Santa Barbara. Next time I'm going to check them out. I mean it's a pretty impressive. We had this many people who chose I think it's six Add a No five out of seven people chose what has God right so hands down. That is the beer the day and you know our hats go off in a salute to telegraph Brewing Company Ciena Barbara. Well done on your tenth anniversary beer. You know it was an easy choice for me I could pick any one of these beers a day. Honestly I've got about quite a few for her. So when he what do you think of going to close it out for tonight. But we had a fun time to that we thank you for tuning us in a minder on Saturday we will be at the single for a while the top harvest festival that's here in about a brewery in Chico

California from one o'clock to five P.M. Last year they catered it. You know the restaurant the free food was free I think the food trucks this year so the beer is fantastic. Next week. Just as we have beer from our trip to the New England area a clue. Dean sip of sunshine heady tap all kinds of famous northeast beers and that's going to be a lot of fun to parts so I'll be sure to tune in for that next two episodes. We'll see you next time for Jeff Miller, Joel Minor, Britton Minor, Kiera Hopkin,

Steve Williamson and Scott Sweeny, I'm Dallas Heliker, this has been the Beer of the Day Podcast.